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we need a plastic cover with a zipper that will completely seal off the mattress
where?
bed bath and beyond seems to have some online...ehhh...
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Yikes. How'd you get bed bugs?
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i think because grbghstr brought a futon from coon rapids basement into our home
:(
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I suspect my own bed of having bed bugs. I've noticed strange marking accumulating on my left arm and torso for a few months now. But they accumulate quite slowly and don't itch, so it might be something else.
In any case, condolences, having (or suspecting that you have) things in your bed that will attack you while you sleep is a bummer.
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yeah its gross
i crushed one that i found crawling on me last night
and there are blood stains on the sheets
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it was a lot worse than i thought
we lifted the mattress to put the cover on, and there were tons caked into the creases
it was really gross...now there is a cheap vinyl cover that will probably rip open
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You should get a new mattress.
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I moved into this apartment and haven't had a bed for a month. When I got here there were a few thin mattress pads that I've been sleeping on instead, while I wait to get my bed. I just wrapped a large tarp all the way around them put a sheet over that, then another tarp (paranoid) over that, the used my regular bed sheets. It doesn't make the crinkle noise too bad. Might work for bed bugs.
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but pg is probably right. I would just throw that nasty mattress out for sure. burn the damn thing.
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Honestly, if it's that bad, you might want to call in an exterminator. They're not necessarily just in the mattress.
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i guarantee they're not just in the mattress.
you've gotta bomb that shit at the very least.
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ps gross
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You though the war on bed bugs was a joke?
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Bedbugs that go dormant for lack of food often live longer than a year, well-fed specimens typically live six to nine months.
weird.
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you NEED an exterminator. Period. You can't even worry about cost at this point. You are seriously fucked if you don't go to Defcon 4. Trust me on this. At the very least:
-You will have to bag and seal all of your clothes, linens, etc. Pick a day off. Take them to the laundromat all at once, wash them all and then dry them for AT LEAST 45 minutes each. Some things will be ruined. Small price to pay.
-Your roommates will have to do the same.
- You must get an exterminator in there, preferably same time you're doing laundry. They will have to spray each room and then set off a bomb, usually takes at least a couple hours before you can return.
- The exterminator will have to return a week later to re-spray, just to confirm.
- You should buy some diatomaceous earth to spread along walls, around the feet of your bed, and so on.
Just armor up and get to work. Or it'll get much, much worse.
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take a bath hippies
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Once I thought I had bedbugs and I subsequently had suicidal ideations but then I figured out it was just fleas on my dog. I'm glad you're dealing with this so well.
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i told you they were bedbugs, kodakya
anyway you can get vinyl zip covers from target. they run about 10 dollars. you need one for your box spriing too if you have one.
you need to exterminate BEFORE this happens. if you live in a duplex or more your landlord has a vested interest in pest removal and will probably pay for this. actually it might be required by no matter how the bedbugs got there.
i just had bedbugs, incidentally. got them from a client at work.
i washed all my clothes, shoes, bags, scarves, towels, curtains, rugs, car, etc. anything that cant be washed needs to go into the dryer at high for 60 minutes. if you can't do that they need to be put in SEALED plastic bags. i got rid of all the bedroom furniture and then i actually threw away over half of my clothes, since it would be a shitty thing to donate some infested clothes to the salvation army.
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exterminate before sealing off the mattress?
i find this event as a good excuse to throw away lots of clothes that i dont need
luckily we dont have carpet and we have never gotten around to getting a couch
or any furniture like that
so its just the bed and clothes, and the dresser, that i am suspect of
i will ask grbgshtr to call the landlord today
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shucks lady :( that sounds AWFUL!
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yeah im all itchy :(
it is unfortunate because i have to work all day all week
i want to be at home fixing the problem
i will just hope grbgshtr can do something...
i want to throw everything away
thanks for everyones advices...
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Ugh. Get rid of that mattress. Sick.
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no where to sleep :(
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sleeping on the floor > sleeping on millions of bugs THAT BITE YOU
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some resources say that bedbugs can live for a year without feeding, others say 18 months. so you need to make sure you keep the vinyl cover on for a long ass time and possibly put a new one on in 6-12 months. over the old one. these are very delicate, fyi and it is easy to get holes in them, which makes them useless, so be careful.
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yes, kitty is already poking holes in with claws...requiring lots of taping...boo
i have a couple leads on a new mattress, maybe
i am just worried that this will keep happening over and over
because i dont know how to possibly get rid of all eggs and traces of these
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meatpit. posted this on Aug 04th, 2008 at 11:33:26 pm
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ok i just read what you wrote kodakya. you cannnnoooottttt keep that mattress. you HAVE GOT TO THROW IT AWAY. you do not have a choice.
air mattresses are on sale at target right now. friends might be able to donate a bug free mattress. you need to get fucking rid of that shit so fucking fast.
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How long have you lived in this place?
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about four months
but im pretty sure we brought them in
by bringing a mattress from coon rapids here
maybe not, but one time we were at grbgshtr's mom's house
and we woke up and thought there were ticks on us
but now im pretty sure it was these guys...
and the same mattress is in our house now
oops
it just sucks because i work 9:45-8:15 everyday
so i dont have a lot of time to do anything
i will just have to hope he can do something today
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YOU NEED AN EXTERMINATOR ASAP
this is actually an emergency
sleep on a washable covered air mattress until you get a new bed
you cannot get rid of bedbugs by yourself without an exterminator
do not try to be a fucking hippy and use teatree oil or something
the reason bedbugs are making a comeback is because you can't use ddt anymore. other methods don't work as effectively and if you dont follow all these measures, including an exterminator, you will just reinfect your place. also if they are as bad as you think they are then your neighbors will get them from you (they will go through the vents and walls and everything). and then reinfect you.
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i had to take time i couldnt afford off of work to deal with this
you are fucked if you dont take this seriously
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regardless of where the bugs came from you landlord needs to deal with the situation.
they should also provide for or repay you for finding a habitable space while you go all Armageddon on their (the bbugs) tiny asses.
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yeah... and you may not want to mention the futon thing...
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yeah, im just going to not say anything about that...
its possible we got it from the neighbor, anyway
because it also started when we moved the bed
to the wall that is between us and the next apt...
but grbgshtr is calling the landlord today
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p.s.
sorry, I know it REALLY sucks.
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couldn't hurt to leave that out.
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Move.
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i contemplated burning my house down
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yeah, we wanted to burn everything last night
mattress, clothes, etc
too bad the grass is so dry...
i feel sick, i will keep check with grbgshtr to see what is going on...
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man, you got me reading the Wikipedia page on Bed Bugs..... traumatic insemination YIKES!
also pretty clear there's no way to know if the apartment was already infested upon move-in or not.
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yeah, unless we call the landlord and he is like, "oh, you dont say..."
but i think grbgshtr's family was going to check their house now
it will be interesting to see if they have the problem...
it would also be really terrible, and i hope not
i have to scrub my kitteh
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***shudder***
Wotta drag. I'm sorry you have to be dealing with this. :(
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the landlord has been called
apparently he was just reading in the paper that bedbugs are a real problem right now, i guess around here, and he is going to do some research...
and then i guess come to a decision? extermination?
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You HAVE to get an exterminator, whether your landlord does it or you do. There is no other option.
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AND, if your landlord dilly dallies... Put your rent money in escrow through your bank until he takes care of it.
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Does Omaha have bed Bugs???? i'm never going to bed again....
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err well maybe he is just researching exterminators?!
unfortunately, minnesota is one place where they dont do this one type of extermination...using heat...which i would much prefer, but i guess it isnt up to me
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Kill 'em anyway you can!
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laser tag
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EXTERMINATE. EXTERMINATE. EXTERMINATE. After the first exterminator visit spread diatomaceous earth everywhere. Then exterminate. You are going to have to clean every day. It's going to suck.
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landlord is calling the exterminator
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i'm pretty sure i don't have bedbugs, but i find these these thin, winged little bugs with antennae once in a while on my bedroom floor and the bathroom floor--anyone have any idea what the hell these are?
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no...they're brownish and don't look like ants
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nope...they look like thinner bedbugs with wings sort of
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Whatever they are donnyyy, they must be destroyed.
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what are those? ish
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earwigs?
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Correct.
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holy shit...i just looked up earwigs and that's what i'm pretty sure they are. ishy!!!!! but i don't see them often. so gross
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Those are nasty little fuckers.
You need to get rid of them ASAP!!
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They crawl through your ears and feast on your brain donnyyy, they must be stopped.
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im glad i wear earplugs!
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Earwigs are harmless.
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I was housesitting once and I was watching tv on the couch and a earwig flew down my shirt. It was so gross.
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i read they were harmless
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I said they feast on your brain, didn't say it was harmful.
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they are back. my coworker is letting us sleep over there, but im so afraid of spreading it to another person's house. i have to wash myself and my kittie really well...ugh this is a nightmare! i read that bedbugs are a serious problem in hawaii, and now in new york esp and elsewhere in our country. apparently they were kind of a non problem since before WWII up until now...bleh
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ew! there not supposed to do that :(
at least i didnt think so..ewww
its scary to think this is an "epidemic,"
i never want to go through this again
nor would i want anyone else to
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That picture is sooooo ruthless. Good lord! AH! Good luck kodayka. Kill em...Kill em good.
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I keep envisioning having to burn all of poor kodakya's stuffed animals a la <i>The Velveteen Rabbit,/i>
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!!!! i do have stuffed animals !!!!
they will have to survive high heat drying
sad, they are old and weathered, i think from the church...
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i feel like an insane person
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you must've got that from the church, too.
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maybe, maybe i have had these bedbugs for over a year!
i have no idea anymore. it seems like i coulve sat in a seat on a bus that someone with bedbugs sat in before me...
all i know is, i oscillate between feeling in control and feeling helplessly psychotic
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i think everyone oscillates between those. some more frequently than others.
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yeah, i suppose so...i wish it was over something less tangible. maybe...errr...?????!?!
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be glad it's something tangible! you're fucked when it's not tangible.
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maybe they arent actually there...!
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EXACTLY! Just like sciatica. Read zom-zom's book and the bedbugs will just disappear!
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you can never be lonely when you have bedbugs!
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TROO
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This is why it's good to use diatomaceous earth in between exterminator visits. They can kill the crawling bugs, but there are still eggs waiting to hatch. The diatoms get under their exoskeleton and cut them to death.
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yes, we want some of this! but it appears that you can order it online, and we have not found it at any store
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now is the worst time of my life...terrible back pain, and i cant remember the last time i slept through the night without waking up every two hours to pump an air mattress
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when i left mezzanine after seeing kodakya yesterday, i got in the car and on the radio was a story on this american life about bedbugs and the woman's name was stephanie!!! you have to listen to it, kodakya.
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awe, i'm sorry about the bed bug crisis. i used to work at a shelter that was taken over by bed bugs - when i got off work i would have strip down out of my clothes before going into my house. it was crazy and really scary. we exterminated all of the time for over a year. heat also kills pest like that. it may be a myth, but putting your clothes in the dryer to tumble may kill some of those guys - do it for like 15-20min. it may be a myth though. we tried it at the shelter and it worked. we never got bed bugs again. good luck.
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stephie hell posted this on Aug 10th, 2008 at 11:41:21 am
when i left mezzanine after seeing kodakya yesterday, i got in the car and on the radio was a story on this american life about bedbugs and the woman's name was stephanie!!! you have to listen to it, kodakya.
I heard that too and immediately thought of kodakya.
That apartment building they were interviewing people in should be burned to the ground. One apartment had cockroaches, another one bedbugs. And that was after they got rid of the mice. I don't understand how people can tolerate it. That cockroach family had to go to the ER to get the cockroaches REMOVED FROM THEIR EARS.
I never never never ever will ever bring home a used piece of furniture again after hearing that.
I must have lucked out big time after living with that dumpster diver.
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ugh ew...yeah, i am glad we dont have a worse problem, that is terrible. the exterminator came today, and all of our clothes are washed and bagged...now we are sleeping on the floor, far from the original problem site...since the air mattress is still broke. but at least something is being done about the bugs!
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we put diatomaceous earth down...it gives me peace of mind, but also the cat is using it as a litterbox AND eating it!
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the shape is all wrong.
;)
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God damn it.
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i know man, i know
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d'you got em?
:(
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i work at a hardware store on franklin that carries a lot of products for bed bugs. the somolian people in the area all come here to buy it and say it works well.
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the only thing that works well is hiring an exterminator and covering your mattress as a precaution. BEFORE you get them. so you don't have to keep getting new expensive mattresses.
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yeah, I got em.
I was going to bed friday night when I noticed a couple bugs crawling around on my mattress by my head. When I got up and turned the lights on I saw 5 or 6 and noticed some small dark spots on my sheets. I looked around and found a cluster of them on the front side of my decorative sheet thing that drapes over my box spring. Then I vaccumed everything in sight and i haven't seen any since.
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OH NO chickenwing, get out while you can.
BURN IT ALL UP
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Where are they hiding? I can't find them anywhere.
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In the cracks
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they hide VERY EFFECTIVELY in the seams and creases of your mattress. very very very sneaky.
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rayna posted this on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:12:22 pm
i fucking hate bedbugs so bad and i predict that more than 50 percent of american will get bedbugs in the next 5 years. i am warning you and NOBODY IS LISTENING!
ok sorry for that.
first- you didn't get rid of them. they will keep coming back. sorry.
-if you live in your own home you will have to pay for an exterminator. sucks.
-if you live in an apartment you HAVE to tell your landlord asap. it is not your fault and they can't hold you responsible. they also have to treat the apatments above and below you, and on either side.(which is most likely where they came from in the first place). if they don't you will get them back. and you have a shitty landlord and should probably move.
-also, anyone getting rid of ANY furniture, clothing, bedding or mattresses from a bedbug infested home needs to destroy these items (ie slashing the mattress, putting warning notes on the furniture, using bright orange spray paint) to prevent the bedbugs from spreading
here are 2 things you definitely need to read, chickenwing
<a ref="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedbug">the wiki entry is actually very informative</a>
well i read i bunch of different stuff and this seem to be the most thorough
-i do disagree with them about killing them first. you want a pest control person to check out the situation and gauge the infestation first
here are a couple additional things that might be sort of helpful:
a few easy thing we can all do to prevent getting them
(that should also include not dumpstering mattresses or furniture and not letting any clothes, bedding or linens enter your house without a proper hot water washing and hot drying)
u of mn extensions recommendations
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oops one of those "need to read" things was linked wrong
here!
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i have 5-8 clients in different apartment buildings who have gotten bedbugs this year. that is half of my caseload.
i also got them.
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i dont know what i got what i'm guessing they're bites, but could be a kind of rash from biking in shorts considering they're pretty much just at the hem of my shorts?
awkward crotch shot:
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diagnosis?
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you can't diagnose bug bites because everyone reacts differently.
if you are worried about bedbugs check the corners of your mattress and the area between the seams.
you most likely have mosquito bites or fleas.
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Those are whore sores. I see them all the time. Incurable. Sorry.
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ouch
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those dont look like bed bugs. also, meatpit.
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ok, good. it's pretty localized, what's in the pic is pretty much it. but my google image search kinda freaked me out. i am the new kodakya, apparently.
hope my cat doesnt have fleas
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you pobably got bit by mosquitos
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I see my poster in that crotch shot.
do you have to throw stuff away if you have fleas? or is there some killing chemical you can get.
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ddt, tequila
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DIatomaceous earth! It gets stuck between the plates of their exoskeleton and they crack themselves apart. Like a Lobster. Eco-friendly as far as I know.
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i got some weird really itchy bites awhile ago. they went away.
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yes, please be the new me! but without bedbugs!
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Then you'll need to clue her in on where the awesome dumpsters are to get diarrhea from.
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i keep that information to myself!
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ddt is fine. eagles have developed immunity.
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You people live in filth.
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even rich and clean people get bed bugs.
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they are back. one year later...
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Oh nooooes!
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fuck it. ditch it all and start over.
i have (hopefully) been bedbug-free for 14 months. fingers crossed, knock on wood, salt over shoulder, and an unhealthy amount of prayer for an atheist.
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i have a very used queen mattress available for free if someone needs it here in a pinch. bug free. we just got a new one on saturday.
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well we are about to move anyway, so yeah, im just going to get a bunch of bags and toss...
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pros: helping me get rid of things a lot faster. less thinking about whether i want things or not.
cons: throwing away lots of useful things...waste pile
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if you burn it, the pile will be smaller
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trust me, i wanted to burn the house down last night!!! but seriously, where could you burn a pile of clothes? nearby firepit? ughhhhhh HELL BUGS
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depends on the clothes. i wouldnt throw them all in a residential fire cause the smoke would be pretty thick and nasty. also any weird plastic material would be a mess to cleanup.
BONFIRE. you will feel so free.
or just throw em in the trash. it feels pretty liberating. proceed to target, change in the dressing room, and start your life over.
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http://www.ipmctoc.umn.edu/Control_of_bedbugs_in_residences_US_Commercial.pdf
two more of my 17 clients now have bedbugs. i think the number is up 10 out 17 or so. i keep finding out that some people have "woodticks". UGH.
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People with woodticks?
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people mistake bedbugs for woodticks sometimes.
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Ug, sucks. Good luck with this.
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Ah. I thought you meant people were sleeping in fields of grass and allowing ticks to accumulate all over their body, hoping they'll someday run into Brad Paisley.
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How are you people always getting bedbegs?
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pretty easy if you leave the house once in a while. but i got them from having orgies with foreigners, so that's not always true.
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I took this yesterday. Never thought about these fuckers til after i started this nyc trip.
I BROUGHT BACK SOME SOUVENIRS! Anyone wanna hang out?
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I'm bumping this to inform that my last post was a joke. I brought and bought back nothing. We'll have itch free hang times again soon
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i'm not calling you anyway. unless you promise to wear a haz-mat suit.
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our landlord is now telling us we have to pay for an exterminator this time...i dont believe that he can legally do this. opinions?
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my cat has fleas, most likely brought in by roommate's dog. I got her frontline and applied it about 6 hours ago, washed all my bedding and laid down this shit on the carpet for killing fleas. i just looked in her fur again and i saw probably 5 or 6. sooooo fucking gross. i hope they're all dead within 6 hours like the product description promises. 'mone will not be sleeping with me tonight
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Fleas r easy.
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yeah. just found a bunch of live ones on simone. the frontline should have long ago killed them
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poor bbay :(
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i gave her a bath. miss 'mone be FUCKIN PISSED
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Better that I end up in this thread than the fresh singles one... but just barely. Our landlord gave us a bug bomb cause I can't totally prove it's bed bugs yet. God, I hope it's not. Our bedroom should be filling up with poison right now while I'm at work.
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oh man that's wrong on so many levels.
have you ripped apart your bedroom with a flashlight and magnifying glass yet? do that. bring a jar for samples.
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and make sure that what you think are bed bug bites are not something else....
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haha lol.
for the record people often go to the doctor for bed bug bites - the dr has no way of telling a bed bug bite apart from another bite. it is spring though and it could "just be spiders"
i would ask your neighbors if they have had any problems with "pests" and see if they bring it up. if they say they have been seeing "ticks" start crying.
also you can purchase really inexpensive bedbug catcher type thingies just to monitor if you have them or not.
depsite the terrible layout, this is a trustowrthy site to buy bedbug stuff from.
this page has pretty cost effective bedbug monitors, traps, and barriers
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this thread is gross.
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reality is gross
quit judging
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i don't like bugs and i will judge them until they murder me.
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bedbugs live on the wings of your fear and hate. you are just making them stronger.
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this is a real catch-22.
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I had enough bedbug bites on my torso and face to know what they look like.
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Instead of looking at pictures of real bed bugs every time someone bumps one of these threads, I'm gonna leave this one in here to look at instead.
<img src=http://www.tapirback.com/tapirgal/gifts/friends/insects/bed-bug-stuffed-f1559.jpg">
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everyone reacts differently to them. they look just like scabies for some people. or mosquitos or hives or nothing.
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I should mention it's the property manager and not the actual landlord I deal with. The actual landlord is a cheap shrew that will probably yell at him if he asks for an exterminator.
I totally did think it was just "spiders", and maybe it is. I will believe it's anything else to avoid having to haul all our clothes down to the laundromat.
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Those yellow spiders love to bite sleeping people
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yeah, one of them kissed my wrist in my sleep. now it looks gross cuz i can't stop fingering it. just got some band aids today.
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Ew I hate those yellow spiders. I've been really nice to the o
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Ther ones and the house centipedes so they eat the yellow ones.
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that's a great idea. i was just telling empty this like 28 min ago, that the other night there was about 30 baby yellow spiders all over the wall and the counter tops in our kitchen. i was trying to get them all on a paper plate so i could put them outside, but i couldn't get all of them. so.. now i have a spider kiss.
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Well, the apartment is offically bombed and like 5 loads of laundry have been done. We've vacuumed the shit out of everything and doused most things in Lysol and/or Raid Bed Bug spray. Pretty sure I'm gonna pass out from fumes but hopefully will stop wanting to burn the building down soon.
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i saw goat claw's spider kiss. it looked like it could start oozing at any moment. pretty gross but at least he's not a spider murder. i live on the 3rd floor so chances are if I see a spider up here it's probably not making it downstairs unless we're both near an open window.
dick wolf, you probably should have stayed at a friend's place tonight.
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"Hey man, my place might have a bunch of bugs that are probably hiding in my backpack. Cool if I crash here for a bit?"
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dick wolf um ...... I dont know how to tell you this but bug bombs dont work.
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I'm well aware of that. My landlord should be too. I'm still holding out hope that we over-reacted on them being bedbugs. There are no signs of them besides the bites and I had no fresh bites this morning.
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yay no fresh bites
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Nice!
Next thing you know, they'll be telling me that smoking prevents STDs, and Subway wards off alzheimers.
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asking for a friend...
Is there anything that is in renter's rights that states that the landlord is to cover the price for bed bug extermination?
She is being told by her landlord that she needs to pay for half of the extermination costs even though it is mostly likely not an issue that was caused by her but by other tenants.
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that sounds like bullshit
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this strib q&a gives some guidance...
"In Minneapolis, for example, City Ordinance 244.600 states that every owner of a dwelling consisting of two or more units is responsible for the extermination of insects, rodents, vermin or other pests on the premises.
So, if your apartment is in Minneapolis and your landlord can't prove you brought in the bedbugs, it is most likely your landlord's responsibility to cover the expense.
If you continue to have problems with your landlord over the bedbug issue, contact HOME Line at 612-728-5767 in the metro area or 1-866-866-3546 outside the metro area."
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Thank you very much, cock lobster!
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I suspect that if an exterminator comes into the building and finds your apt to be the one with all or most of the bugs, that may be considered proof.
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no, it's not. the renter before may have had them. the neighbors may have had them, and exterminated, but your landlord didn't exterminate your apartment. i believe if you went to court, the burden of proof would be on the landlord as well, and i am not sure how he would prove that you were responsible other than if you admitted you dragged in a bedbug infested couch off the street or had them before you moved in or something.
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I suspect that if an exterminator comes into the building and finds your apt to be the one with all or most of the bugs, that may be considered proof.
Which is exactly what frumy's slumlords pulled, when it came time to return the security deposit.
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I'm not taking sides, just thinking about it. Orbit, did she go to small claims court, and if so how did the judge rule?
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