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What a bunch of "morans"!
Obama gave 95% of all Americana a tax cut, & only Govt. spending can pull us out of the tough economic times.
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Yeah, I just finished reading a series of Tea Party-related pieces on another site. Oof, I should have known better.
Patriots my ass. Proposed cuts for 95% of Americans, including these clowns who act like they're standing up to that big dark bully, President Obama (already saw a Photoshopped Hitler-Obama poster). All orchestrated by a bunch of rich guys who don't want to pay close to what they were paying under Reagan.
I swear, what really has this chunk of our population riled up isn't taxes or "socialism" or gun laws. . .it's the gut-wrenching fear they have that White America is over. They just can't say it.
Need to go chill now. . .
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Keith Olbermann is saying "teabagging" as much as possible.
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.mark my word... there will be another Timothy McVeigh in the next 8 years... these people are getting paranoid
Agreed, thats why I predicted that Obama will beef up NSA & wire tapping laws. The right is going to play dirty, we need to keep an eye on the extreemists.
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Well, i hope Obama doesn't continue Bush's NSA policy... i think they can get on top of domestic extremists without shredding the constitution.
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I love how all the guy can do is repeat "fascist" over and over and then qualify it with a desire for term limits.
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(from the 'more madness' link)
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A:I think he's a fascist
Q:WHY?
A:Because he is.
well reasoned
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No surprise that the white supremacy part of Nazism eludes this guy.
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fellah posted this on Apr 15th, 2009 at 09:52:49 pm
A:I think he's a fascist
Q:WHY?
A:Because he is.
well reasoned
hahahahahahahahah
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I'm going to crop-dust those chumps with white shame!
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Seriously, I just want to punch all of these cretins.
I am having trouble thinking of an effective means of defusing this situation before it really gets out of hand. I suppose punching isn't really the answer.
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I suggest laughter.
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the topper is gov. rick perry saying TX "could" secede if the USA continues to tax its citizens so much. and that somehow gets twisted as patriotic? what?!
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No kidding!
I don't get why any Democrat/leftist/liberal would be upset about this.
Rejoice! Let the illiterate, sign-wielding wingnuts be the public face of the GOP.
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Big Teabaggin' Party weekend.
You want to read all sorts of crazy? Check this meetup page out:
hxxp://www.meetup.com/WeSurroundThemGathering/messages/boards/
I mutated the link as to not create a direct link to here for obvious reasons.
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MTV's Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag Support Patriot Movement
MayorCurley
Posted Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM
RedPill
Land O Lakes, FL
Post #: 704
Were on Alex Jones Radio Show on 6-30-2009 supporting the Patriot Movement and speaking out against Cap and Trade.
I guess they are on a show called "The Hills"
http://www.infowars.c...
Some other celebrities who listen to Alex Jones are
Charlie Sheen
Bruce Willis
Willie Nelson
Dave Mustaine (Lead Singer and Guitarist for Heavy Metal Band Megadeth)
A former member
Posted Jul 1, 2009 8:53 PM
Post #: 11
Listen to me. I am extremely angry. I just read many posts on that site. That site sickens me. It sounds like a bunch of SkinHeads. If this is where you stand, you should not be allowed to post here.
Charlie Sheen is a complete idiot! I think that Dave and Willie probably share the same pharm-induced problem. Bruce? Don't know. Sympathy?
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At leat Lady HardOn got a song out of this.
"Tea-baggin', tea-tea-teabaggin' / it's the sensation that's sweeping the nation!"
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I'm not saying that I joined a few times and posted some hilarious things and I'm also not suggesting that anyone else do so.
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links or it didn't happen!
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could someone please start a band called Dick Armey and the Teabaggers.
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And he taps into the innate fear most Americans have about government activism and overreach.” the Death of White Culture
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while still sporting one of the most Oompa Loompa of tans.
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Who's telling Republicans to call Democrats marxists? The mainstream Democratic party is so centrist and their leaders are all about compromise and consolidation of power behind the wealth of corporate interests... it's basically as close as you can get to being a liberal and still the polar opposite of a Marxist.
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...and their leaders are all about compromise and consolidation of power behind the wealth of corporate interests...
Holrr.
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i just came here to post that
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Enjoy this "parody" letter from Tea Partier Mark Williams. Behold, a true patriot!
Dear Mr. Lincoln
We Coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don't cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!
In fact we held a big meeting and took a vote in Kansas City this week. We voted to condemn a political revival of that old abolitionist spirit called the 'tea party movement'.
The tea party position to "end the bailouts" for example is just silly. Bailouts are just big money welfare and isn't that what we want all Coloreds to strive for? What kind of racist would want to end big money welfare? What they need to do is start handing the bail outs directly to us coloreds! Of course, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is the only responsible party that should be granted the right to disperse the funds.
And the ridiculous idea of "reduce[ing] the size and intrusiveness of government." What kind of massa would ever not want to control my life? As Coloreds we must have somebody care for us otherwise we would be on our own, have to think for ourselves and make decisions!
The racist tea parties also demand that the government "stop the out of control spending." Again, they directly target coloreds. That means we Coloreds would have to compete for jobs like everybody else and that is just not right.
Perhaps the most racist point of all in the tea parties is their demand that government "stop raising our taxes." That is outrageous! How will we coloreds ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society?
Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. Please repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments and let us get back to where we belong.
Sincerely
Precious Ben Jealous, Tom's Nephew
NAACP Head Colored Person
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Oh, just make it an official political party, already.
C'mon, you know you want to.
Do it.
Chickens.
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p.s. - Yes, I am aware that what this woman did was a bit unprofessional. But she DID do her job, from the sounds of it.
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^^^^Fuck that. The more this story plays out, the more I just have to shake my head. Vilsack is a devout coward.
Despite being defended by the white farmer she allegedly discriminated against, former U.S. Department of Agriculture official Shirley Sherrod will not get her job back.
Sherrod "kept us out of bankruptcy," said Eloise Spooner, 82. . .Spooner, who considers Sherrod a "friend for life," said the federal official worked tirelessly to help the Iron City couple hold onto their land as they faced bankruptcy back in 1986.
"Her husband told her, ‘You're spending more time with the Spooners than you are with me,' " Spooner told the AJC. "She took probably two or three trips with us to Albany just to help us out."
Spooner spoke to her friend by phone Tuesday morning.
"She's very sad about it," Spooner said. "She told me she was so glad we talked. I just can't believe this is happening to her."
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So disgusting. Couldn't even watch the full speech or do the merest amount of due diligence. Just immediate deference to the right-wing smear machine. Same deal w/ that video camera prankster basically getting ACORN shut down.
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Would that be the ACORN has been subsequently cleared of wrongdoing in (at least) two different investigations?
Breitbart was on Hannity's show last night, apparently saying "This isn't about Sherrod". Hell of a way to make a point, asshole - at the cost of some innoccent person's career. Especially when the point appears to be "waaaah, white people are victims of the racist NAACP".
Again, though, the blame falls on the Sec. of Agriculture.
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Amazing. You'd think they'd at least check to see if John Haller (R)Pennsylvania is a real person.
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I like the message, but I'm creeped out by the thought of him reading that aloud.
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Does he talk out of the left or right side of his mouth?
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Man, Larry Flynt continues to make it impossible to hate the guy.
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Read Prisoner of X.
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As in, I'll def. hate him after reading it, or it will it make it even more difficult to full-on hate him?
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I guess that depends on how much of an asshole you are.
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Those two paragraphs are WAY more accurate and concise than the hundreds of millions of dollars that will be wasted by Democratic candidates in the upcoming midterms. He's absolutely right.
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Oh, I know the dude is a worm, but every so often he pulls something like this out of his ass that shows he's not totally worthless.
I mean, that ad is spot-fucking-on. It's too bad someone more upstanding couldn't beat him to the punch.
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It's a good ad, I'll give him that.
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oh man, it gets even better:
Before that she told the Christian Broadcasting Network's David Brody that she was avoiding mainstream outlets because "there's no earning for me there."
"In that audience, will they let me say I need $25 dollars from a million people go to Sharron Angle.com send money? Will they let me say that?"
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The only ones surprised about where the money is coming from are the people carrying the misspelled signs.
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Carl Paladino is so horrifying/awesome.
Anyone see the footage of him telling a reporter from the NY Post that he was going to take him out? Dude even has goons.
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That's weird about Moe Tucker.
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It's like they're convinced halal tomato soup has blood from stolen christian babies.
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Mental illness is a bitch.
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Man, if the soup had the blood of x-tians in it I'd eat that shit every day.
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this is the most ridiculous thing. wow. maybe they should ALSO boycott all products that have kosher designation on them as well, since the Jews OBVIOUSLY control everything in America? fuck these idiots
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THE JEWS CONTROL AMERICA NOW???
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They definitely control the media!
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and hollywood!
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They definitely control the mediarmb!
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Hollywood and the media? There's nothing left for us gentiles.
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hhahahahahhahaaha
''are kellogs products secretly halal?''
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oh my god the comments on there are RIDICULOUS
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holy shit seriously check out jihad watch
epistemology | October 5, 2010 3:30 PM | Reply
On our way to the rally in Berlin we passed by a Vietnamese snackbar. There was a writing on the window: New, halal. Islam is conquering Europe.
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Religion taking over! What's next, Fillet O Fish specials during Lent?!
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i wonder if these shitheads realize that this is their beloved FREE MARKET in action
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Author Profile Page Meeker | October 5, 2010 6:10 PM | Reply
Have joined you all in sending message to Campbells protesting and that will not buy their products from now on. Also protesting the cruelty of Halal slaughter.
hahaha i wonder if he knows anything about ritual slaughter under kashrut
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yeah non-halal cows are slaughter by giving them sleeping pills and copious amounts of red wine, while they are reclined on a bean bag chair while "In A Little While" by U2 plays softly in the background
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at first i thought you were being sarcastic, but then i saw the U2
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I know that as a young person I have a limited range of experiences to draw from and if I were able to see them in the context of human history I might have a more forgiving perspective, but it is very difficult not to view the tea-partiers as the pinnacle of human stupidity. I really can't help but feel like they have set a new standard. Thinking about them makes me shake with helpless frustration.
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magma90210
10/08/10 1:10 PM
i wonder if these shitheads realize that this is their beloved FREE MARKET in action
---Oh no you DI'INT just try to argue logically with them.
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this takes idiocy to a whole new level
sure backs up their whole "obama is hitler" thing...?
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Please keep in mind that this movement is likely being infiltrated with all types of folks attempting to discredit them. There were many government infiltrators during the RNC protest movement. I don't see how this movement would be any different.
And even if every one of them is as dumb as a bag of rocks, I see no benefit from condemning and judging them. Sure, you should argue for or against their views, but this whole "Fuck these idiots" attitude isn't helping anyone.
Karma, folks.
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Fuck these idiots.
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Yeah, I mean why judge someone for stupid, racist shit they say? That would just be...distasteful.
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Looks like some of their "infiltrators" are now winning elections. even!
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Dustroyer, you make a good point about judgement. I feel personally that there is a strong distinction between judging a belief and judging a person. I have held some beliefs in the past that I would now judge to be ignorant or hateful, but I continue to love myself despite my shortcomings. What I am suggesting is that we do the same with every Human Being, be very critical of their actions and beliefs, but love them unconditionally.
Saying, "fuck these idiots" is neither critical nor loving.
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There is no way I am ever going to love every human being unconditionally. Too many of them are reprehensible swine. Not people who "exhibit reprehensible behavior," but actual reprehensible people at their core.
Some people really are just assholes.
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Interesting. So where do you draw the line between those who "exhibit reprehensible behavior" and those who are "reprehensible to the core"?
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When you get to know someone, it's not that hard to figure out.
The best "general humanity" is going to get from me is "unconditional indifference" in any case. Unconditional love is also reserved for people I know well enough to deserve that rare distinction.
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love everyone unconditionally, hm? well, maybe if life on earth was different in every feasible way. for now I'll just love the people I actually love, and not lie to the rest.
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I would like to say from a pragmatic standpoint that hating others has brought about no constructive change in my life while loving unconditionally has brought about amazing results. Hating is just too stressful. Stress contributes to sickness. Love heals both the lover and the loved. I suppose it is possible that I have not yet gotten to know these "reprehensible to the core" people you speak of, but I still feel that love can change even these people for the better.
And cool song by the way, neight.
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"Your reprehensible ideology is predicated on the further marginalization of the underprivileged. Luv u, tho"
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I do not condone lying to someone about loving them. That could be even worse than hatred.
You do not need to love everyone in the same way you love your immediate family, friends, or partners, but I believe that everyone is deserved a certain amount of respect and love as part of the Human family.
We exist through the faces of our communities.
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amen, preach. maybe hating people does nothing for you, but I benefit greatly from it.
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willis, I think you continue to mistake the Tea Party™ as a counter-hegemonic force akin to the elements which coalesced around protesting the RNC (and would no doubt have protested the DNC had it happened here) in MPLS. I'm not sure what your interpretive filters are, but nothing could be further askew to these eyes and ears. This movement, or at least the body of talking points used to apparently mobilize it, is a particularly virulent strand of the status quo: overwhelmingly white, xenophobic, paranoid, militaristic, ostensibly "unfettered capitalism", etc.
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thank you taco. couldn't have said it better myself (no honestly i couldn't).
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You left out "planned and initiated by thinktank bigwigs experimenting with combining viral marketing with the exploitation of the worst parts of human instinct."
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I read that all in Mr. satori's .etc, as well as "to see what nonsense a Fox tv show host could spout that the group would not swallow and regurgitate whole, up to and including revoking popular election of the Senate."
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I had to read taco's post four times to understand what it meant. Typical liberal newspeak obfuscation.
Can you rewrite it in a language other than elitest Macalesterese?
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taco + Poppa + boris + faceman = love
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This thread inspired some of wackiest dreams ever overnight involving me, Sarah Palin, hounds (as in "release the"), PoppaLarge, the police, Mark Dayton, and Conan O'Brien. Plus I got to be on a motorcycle and wear a fake mustache.
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You got to be Todd? I'm totally jealous!
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"I've always been fascinated by the fact that here was a relatively small country that from a strictly military point of view accomplished incredible things. I mean, they took over most of Europe and Russia, and it really took the combined effort of the free world to defeat them. From a purely historical military point of view, that's incredible," Iott said.
Other Republican leaders have begun to distance themselves from Iott.
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Not that he doesn't have a point.
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I realize that there have been many, many racist and xenophobic things said by "Tea Party" members. I guess I am playing a bit of a devil's advocate (a stance no one else seems to be taking on this topic) when I propose that there is at least a small amount of value in this movement. In all likelihood this movement has many smart individuals who may exhibit racist attitudes because they grew up around it. It is my belief that if we treat these people like Human Beings that they will take messages of equality much more seriously when finally exposed to such views.
And it seems hypocritical to condemn these people for being racists while at the same time degrading them to a less than human level. (Not saying that everyone has been doing this)
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The only people dumber than teabaggers = willis
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On the one hand there's specific virulently racist Tea Party-identifying candidates and supporters one after another and on the other hand supposed imaginings of what's really in their squishy hearts deep down. I don't know why this discussion isn't more satisfying.
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Here's why: acceptance of submoronic premises. Stop confusing "love" for an inability to think.
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Does hating a racist really do anything to stop fight racism?
Does claiming that I am dumb further any point of yours? I am not attacking anyone here. Why do you wish to do so?
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*Does hating a racist really do anything to stop/fight racism?
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It's not about "furthering" anything. Look at who you're defending and get back to us, punk.
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A fundamental problem with your arguments is that you seem to be mistaking the "Tea Party" for an actual organic grassroots movement, which it isn't. This is something that is heavily funded by people and organizations who have a vested interest in convincing people to vote against their own best interest, and are using some pretty vile tactics as an ends to that means. They are encouraging the worst in human nature and exploiting people's fear in order to get them to support policies and candidates that will ultimately benefit no one but the people at the top.
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Perhaps I am attempting to steer the discussion towards practical methods of removing racism from our communities. Hating the racists doesn't seem to be helping.
Maybe I should be starting my own thread.
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Loving the racists seems to be your prescription, which is why you seem like such an idiot.
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Are you suggesting that I have too much faith in a racists ability to change?
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I must say that I have never changed for someone that didn't love me.
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who's to say that they'll change for someone who will?
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There has been a shift that I have been watching take place over the last decade, that came to an ugly head during the Presidential campaigns. It seems that people have gotten the message that it's OK to be openly racist. That didn't start with the Tea Party - it's something that's been working it's way up, from right wing talk radio up to Fox News. "It's just a joke" they say. If you disagree, you're "oversensitive" or "politically correct" (say in a sneering tone for the full effect.)
It's a very easy, basic thing to exploit. It's easy to tell people that someone who LOOKS different is the enemy. It's easy to convince people that The Other is something less than human. It's been politically expedient for the right to do so, for a long time, though now the language is less coded. (Remember the dreaded "welfare mothers?")
A lot of this has ultimately been in the service of keeping money in the pockets of the wealthy and powerful, who don't give a shit how badly they poison the well.
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willis, I realize you love all these fucks, but where's the breaking point? How far does one of your loved ones have to go before they...oh wait...they already went there. I'm sure your love will set them staight.
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I don't believe the Tea Party movement itself is our enemy. If we must have an enemy, it would be the factions in power that have an interest in promoting racist ideologies in groups that might otherwise be a threat to their hierarchy. The same factions I believe you are talking about, frumious.
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w/r/t the Tea Party & "factions in power," you've got it exactly backwards.
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Groovylucifer, I'm sure there are individuals that I would deem "too far gone" for myself to have an impact upon, but surely not every single member of the movement is this way.
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DUH. Who do you think is funding the "tea party" "movement?" God yr dumb.
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I don't follow you, Roaratorio. Please be more specific.
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I'm not sure exactly who is funding the tea party movement. Perhaps who could tell me so I could stop being so "dumb".
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Perhaps you*
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ok: if you believe that the "factions in power" feel threatened by the Tea Party "movement" and are promoting racist ideologies in an attempt to bring them down, you've got it exactly backwards. As has been said many times in this thread, look at who is funding this fake "movement." If anything, the "factions in power" probably wish they could tamp down all the racist shit that bubbles near the top of most Tea Party spewings.
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I believe the "factions in power" are threatened by social movements in general. By focusing on the most obscene racists that are active in social movements it gives a bad name to social movements everywhere, and gives them more leverage towards suppressing the right to free speech.
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I don't believe the Tea Party movement itself is our enemy. If we must have an enemy, it would be the factions in power that have an interest in promoting racist ideologies in groups that might otherwise be a threat to their hierarchy.
Again, you seem to believe that the "Tea Party movement" is something separate from this. It isn't. There isn't a damn thing about it that originates anywhere but in a right wing think tank that is being funded by people who want to see policies that would result in changes to the status quo fail. It preys on people who are frustrated and fearful, people who will ultimately be harmed if the Tea Party agenda is actually successful.
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Believing the Tea Party to be a grass-roots "social movement" is like believing the sexual practice of sticking a gerbil up one's ass as not originating in the mists of urban myths.
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Ok. I agree that the "Tea Party movement" originates largely from extremely wealthy thinktanks. But what about all of the people who are fooled into the deception that it is actually a completely grassroots movement in their best interest? (As I seemed to assume for a short while) Should we really hate these people? Or are they potential allies against corporate tyranny?
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Should we really hate these people? Or are they potential allies against corporate tyranny?
They certainly aren't wringing their hands about whether or not they should hate us.
My guess is that a good portion of them are convinced that we're the devil at this point. The sort of person who has been getting their information, and validation, from the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Glen Beck, all of whom would surely call us traitors and advocate shooting us right in our commie fascist liberal faggot faces. They've been ingesting a steady diet of Fox News for years. Any information that contradicts what they have gotten from that is from the Godless Liberal Media and therefor suspect. Whatever misfortune befalls them can always be blamed on Obama, liberals, homosexuals, abortions, taxes, and moral decay in general.
That's not to say that some of them don't have legitimate concerns. And it isn't to say that some of them aren't perfectly nice people (although I can guarantee you many of them are not, despite your weirdly tenacious altruism.) But you'd have to come forth with something pretty potent in order to convince them to fight the real good fight. Because they will keep going back to Fox. And Fox is extremely good at keeping them frightened and angry, potent emotions that tend to resist reason.
Short version; No, probably not.
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IMO it is possible to not love something, and to bristle at the suggestion that you should love that thing, without ipso facto hating that thing.
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But you'd have to come forth with something pretty potent in order to convince them to fight the real good fight.
Agreed. But isn't fighting racism a worthy battle? And might we learn some valuable lessons along the way about the nature of racism itself?
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Precisely.
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That is a pretty hilarious picture, though.
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But isn't fighting racism a worthy battle?
Of course. But you have to understand what exactly you're up against.
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Soapy Kittens
10/11/10 12:12 AM Uh, maybe the stupidest thing one can do is respond to hate with exactly the thing the folks running the Tea Party want you to - more hate.
This exactly.
Also, I had a wild dream the other day where America suffered another bloody civil war: Tea-partiers vs. Non-tea partiers. Don't remember most of it but I'm pretty sure the ones with all the guns won.
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The military-industrial complex?
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Also I'm not sure how "hate" got thrown into this outside of talking about Larry Flynt and then willis' apparent (and additional) conflation of "hatred" with "grave objection to the intolerance exhibited by a concentration of angry white people".
Semantic debate over "Warm Fuzzy" madness!
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Finn McCool
10/10/10 4:52 PM
"I've always been fascinated by the fact that here was a relatively small country that from a strictly military point of view accomplished incredible things. I mean, they took over most of Europe and Russia, and it really took the combined effort of the free world to defeat them. From a purely historical military point of view, that's incredible," Iott said.
"why no, i have never heard of this little island you call england, tell me more. it conquered a quarter of the world and was the largest empire in history, why what a neat thing for such a small country to do!"
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I shot a bunch of high-powered handguns on Saturday.
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i agree with sseth, guns are super fun
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for neight:
willis
10/10/10 8:37 PM
Groovylucifer, I'm sure there are individuals that I would deem "too far gone" for myself to have an impact upon, but surely not every single member of the movement is this way.
and for taco satori:
...willis' apparent (and additional) conflation of "hatred" with "grave objection to the intolerance exhibited by a concentration of angry white people".
Where did you get the impression that I am confusing the two? My problem is with the outright hatred of these people. My problem is not with objections to their intolerance.
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and I must admit that the last post by Dustroyer was indeed pretty hilarious.
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Also I'm not sure how "hate" got thrown into this outside of talking about Larry Flynt
After looking over the thread again, I realize that the level of hate exhibited is quite tame compared to other Tea Party threads I have come across. I'm not trying to single anyone out or anything. I suppose thought the concepts of love and hate would be an interesting turn in the discussion.
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My question is where are you seeing this "hatred", other than people being internet messageboard reactive to your original fuzziness?
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I suppose I thought*
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(ah, missed your response)
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well i was going to say "duh, black panthers much?" but then it was said right away in the song so i guess you already know
really the glowing fox news coverage of the tea party is all i think a reasonable person should need to hate the tea party
if fox is promoting it there is no way it can be good
and any theoretically positive reasons people could have for being drawn to it are over-negated by the fact that it not only won't fix those things but will also do worse things in the meantime with its cloak of "well they kinda have a point"
cases in point: EVERY SINGLE TEA PARTY CANDIDATE IS A FUCKING LOON'S ANUS
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Matt Taibbi has an article about the Tea party in the current Rolling Stone (with Obama on the cover) - it's typical Taibbi but pretty interesting.
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Dunno if this is the right thread for this, or maybe its already posted somewhere else, but this video is, like, the funniest thing ever (and scariest).
what's an amendment?
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Holy fuck.
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Wowwwwwwwwwie wow. I just watched the whole thing, and that smug look of GOTCHA on her face after questioning the guy about the first amendment.. wow.
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I like how she assumes that no church-going person would possibly believe in evolution
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I love all the laughter in the background. Like the whole audience can't stop making fun of her.
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The best part of that, though, is right after she asks "Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state," and everyone starts laughing, she gets a big grin on her face because she DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THEY ARE LAUGHING AT HER.
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Strictly speaking, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. But that fact is really just a misinterpreted gotcha factoid for religious fundamentalists.
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Maybe she's grinning at her intended audience. She knows that 'facts' are becoming more and more subjective by the day. "Doesn't really matter what this smug elitist says, we know what the Constitution says, right guys?"
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stu
10/20/10 12:00 PM
Strictly speaking, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. But that fact is really just a misinterpreted gotcha factoid for religious fundamentalists.
Zactly. And the sane response to that is "You're right, there's no specific and clearly stated separation if church and state. Now please show the the clear and specific right to bear arms. "
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palin 2.0. i'm baffled.
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Loon's Anus
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she somehow manages to make palin look qualified and smart. who in turn made GWB seem qualified and smart. I wonder what kind of drooling malformed thing will be churned out next to make her look good by comparison.
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Free pass on pollution! Fuck yeah. NY times:
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“Climate change is real, and man is causing it,” Mr. Hill said, echoing most climate scientists. “That is indisputable. And we have to do something about it.”
A rain of boos showered Mr. Hill, including a hearty growl from Norman Dennison, a 50-year-old electrician and founder of the Corydon Tea Party.
“It’s a flat-out lie,” Mr. Dennison said in an interview after the debate, adding that he had based his view on the preaching of Rush Limbaugh and the teaching of Scripture. “I read my Bible,” Mr. Dennison said. “He made this earth for us to utilize.”
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One more time:
he had based his view on the preaching of Rush Limbaugh and the teaching of Scripture.
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I base my view of physics on the preaching of Glenn Beck and the Book of Revelation
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Fancy learnin' is what killed Christ.
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Nope, that was jews.
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In hindsight, that was a bad choice.
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My choice? I'm only talkin' 'bout Mel Gibson.
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I meant us Jews killing Christ and all. It hasn't really worked out as well as we'd planned.
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I see. Jesus had his revenge via Hitler.
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and the Pogroms and the Inquisition and etc.
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Yeah, forgot about that stuff.
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Why are you trying to take my one good thing away from me?
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killing jesus was the best thing the jews ever did - can you imagine if that commie faggot had gotten a following?!
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(Romans.)
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the Church of the Sweet Deal
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I could not possibly be more impressed. that was masterful. when the angel of death turned into obama I shrieked with laughter. I love satire. Whoever made this is a really clever satirist. or so I choose to believe. in order to preserve the tattered remains of belief I have in the human race.
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You described my chief coping technique.
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obama is soooooooooo evil that he doesn't even really exist. hence the joker/angel of death thing. I'm starting to unravel their logic.
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I am so glad I don't live in Colorado anymore. Remember how stupid that was? What a nightmare!
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What's the deal here? She's carrying a Rand Paul sign? Was she originally wearing a wig?
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Is anything going to happen to this redneck thug?
Or is this just election year passion?
He stepped on a woman's head while she was held down by two other men.
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I read something where he said the woman he stomped on should apologize to him.
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lol he said that he had a problem where he couldn't bend down to hit her with his hands so that's the reason he gave for stomping her head instead. lmfao this guy needs to get a career and move off the farm
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And when asked if he would apologize to Valle. "I would like for her to apologize to me to be honest with you," Profitt said.
link
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So that's it, then?
And when Rand Paul wins, he'll feel even more justified.
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that video is fucking horrifying.
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The "stomping" incident has garnered national media attention, and even President Barack Obama has weighed in on it.
The Daily Caller, a news site founded by media veteran Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, a former adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, reported that Obama told a group of liberal bloggers that Paul should not be blamed for the actions of a campaign supporter.
"In fairness, I don't expect every candidate to be responsible for every single supporter's actions," Obama reportedly said.
Obama also said that "what we saw on the video was an example of people's passions just getting out of hand in ways that are disturbing."
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I don't buy this shit at all. Not from Rand Paul, not from the President. This guy worked for Paul; it sounds like they knew each other pretty well. Moreover (and as pointed out in numerous other places), this 'movement,' of which Paul is a very visible part, has fostered this sort of behavior all across the country with both its rhetoric and its tacit approval the 'passions' of everyone who gathers under the banner.
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as a sidenote: professional protesters are kind of strange, IMO.
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"Tea Party" "Madness"
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The professional protester meme is mainly a GOP construct, isn't it?
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(meme is probably a better word)
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yeah you're probably right Orbit. but she isn't even from KY and is apparently employed by MoveOn. it seems possible they wanted to catch on film these asshole thugs acting like asshole thugs.
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Good point. And what was with her extra layer of clothing? She's like begging for someone to test its ability to withstand a stomping foot.
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Yeah and the video only captures the latter part of the confrontation. I mean I think it's quite likely that she politely asked them if they would body slam her because she hates life. TAI
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Maybe they were just trying to impress her
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I'm not suggesting that she was "asking for it" or anything. Just suggesting that there was more of a cat and mouse thing going on between the protesters and the security, like the disguises and all that.
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I never meant to be so bad to you
One thing I said that I would never do
A look from you and I would fall from grace
And that would wipe the smile right from my face
Do you remember when we used to dance
And incidents arose from circumstance
One thing led to another we were young
And we would scream together songs unsung
It was the heat of the moment
Telling me what my heart meant
The heat of the moment showed in your eyes
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Have you seen John Wetton lately? I flipped through some Asia in Asia thing and dude is huge, while Steve Howe looks like he weighs twelve pounds. They were playing some State Theater looking place and all these middle-aged Japanese folks were on their feet, politely clapping along.
Good times.
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Ron is his poppa.
Rand is an anti-government doctor from Kentucky who loves Medicare payments.
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Somebody's gonna get their head kicked in tonight.
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You can stop acting like a little bitch, Neight. YOU'RE NOT POOR!!!!
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I heard an interview with Ron Paul in which he said that on the first day him and Rand are going to write a bill that instigates an investigation into the Federal Reserve.
Take it as you will.
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The Fed hasn't been audited in a very long time.
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Also, it was almost humorous how he dodged questions about his opinions on the tea party considering his son is one. You can tell that he isn't ready to get behind them, but he was trying to stop himself from saying negative things about them.
Ralph Nader, in another interview, called them "the most craven republican party in history". But refrained from calling the politicians racist. He thinks their views attract racists though. But Nader isn't really somebody who seems to be in touch with the race issue.
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Give it to these ignorant bastards young Willis!!
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Anybody want to take any bets on how long before one of these righties gets caught with the "n-word" flying out of their mouth?
I seriously would love to see a TP Congressman/woman go down Michael Richards style.
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Yeah, but their constituents will never know about it because it won't be reported on Fox.
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florida congressman elect's chief of staff:
became infuriated at illegal immigration after she called Comcast and the recording said, "Press 2 for Spanish."
"If you commit a crime while you're here, we should hang you and send your body back to where you came from, and your family should pay for it."
"There are people who want to change your way of life, and some of them may be your gardeners."
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ok not so much madness
and not so much an important story
but interesting and illuminating nonetheless
(also the article is a nice reminder of the value of good nuts and bolts local reporting)
to summarize,
some kentucky tea partiers are mad that EPA regulations will increase their water bill
so they went to their county big wig and it produced these quotes:
TP: "There was a pretty big sweep across the country, and things are happening. We're taking our country back."
BW: "All we're suggesting is that the pressure point is the federal government. They're the ones issuing the mandate. They actually have ways to penalize local jurisdictions for not following through. I don't know the precise moment that these regulations came on-line, but it wasn't yesterday, it's probably been years.
"What you're going to have to realize is that a federal mandate is the reason that we're involved in this conversation, and you're going to have to be talking to the federal people, and hopefully in a little bit different tone of voice and with different expectations than the way you're laying it out to us."
OH SNAP
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Big sweep. Did they notice that twice as many teabaggers lost than won?
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Come on, logic has no place in politics!
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The Tea Party is pretty much the same thing as the Green Party circa 2000 when Gore lost. There was a great piece on This American Life that I caught a bit of before mid-terms talking about people who were in the Tea Party that were pushed out and it got taken over by the GOP and Republicans who wanted the party to do more. The funny thing is that they aren't their own party. The Green Party got a huge bump from Nader who really didn't represent Green Party values as they were at the time. The party was taken over by lefty Dems and progressives who more or less gave up on the Democrats. They didn't last long when they saw that it would take forever to make any real changes with a 3rd party. They also ran in to huge fights with people who had been part of the Green Party that didn't want the same things as they did.
Anyways, what I am saying is that it is too bad the Tea Party doesn't form their own party. They are at least smart enough to know that 3rd party politics in this country on a large scale is not the route to go.
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I was just reading some comments at this site called "Resistnet" and I wanted to share at least one of them with you fine folks:
I heard Glenn Beck say that Joe Biden wrote the Patriot Act in 1995 but I also heard a long time ago that it was some Asian guy who was in the Bush White House who was responsible for writing it. Can't remember his name but I remember seeing a picture of him and thought what was a Chinese guy doing writing our laws anyway. May be the sources that reported this were wrong but that's what I heard.
Poetry
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This could go in a WTF Obama thread to. I wounder how much Insanity the people of America can take.
And as of today, the federal extension of unemployment insurance benefits has expired. About 800,000 jobless workers will get dropped from the rolls by Dec. 4, and about 2 million by Christmas. link
And of course this is still Speculation.
The White House, meanwhile, has signaled it’s willing to compromise on Republican demands to preserve the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans
link
I know it easy to cry 'Apocolipse' or 'Revolution', but I don't think it will take much more for a strong reaction from people. Am I missing something? No jobs, No Health care, No jobless benifits, what are 2 million plus going to do?
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The Obama administration failure to connect the dots on this is a fucking nightmare.
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Probably afraid of the ensuing backlash over "raising middle class tax cuts."
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You know as well as I do that the right won't let the truth stand in the way of a nice smear.
They would just insist that the Democrats stonewalled the poor GOP on their entirely reasonable contention that taxes shouldn't be raised in a recession, thereby achieving liberals' real goal: higher taxes for all! Tax and spend! Socialism! Etc!
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It would probably be a more effective talking point if it were actually true that taxes were going up generally, rather than for just for the top income bracket. The right was already able to gloss over the fact that Obama cut middle class taxes--imagine how they'd run wild with those taxes actually rising.
NB: I'm not saying the Democrats shouldn't do what you're suggesting, just that this is a plausible explanation of why they're avoiding it.
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Tea Party Nation President Judson Phillips:
"The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasn’t you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if you’re a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If you’re not a property owner, you know, I’m sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners."
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Property owners? What about all those good conservative suburban/exurban folks who have been foreclosed upon? I'm guessing they get a pass.
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If the rich didn't have good ideas then how did they become rich? TAI
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i like where this conversation is going.....i also think skin color should be a factor and either only white people should be able to vote or your vote should count more the more white you are. maybe gender too? the gender one is more tricky though cuz i believe there is more than two genders so we gotta figure out how to measure how much male someone is to know how much more weight to give their vote.
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If only there were some way to measure one's manhood...
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maybe whether you sit or stand while peeing combined with how much you fart?
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^i've been meaning to put in the obama blew it thread that everything went sideways when the dems/obama decided to never play hardball
instead of twisting arms to get the votes they needed they decided to cater and cajole
instead of attacking the republicans inept and already-proven-wrong ideas they tried to engage and find a middle ground
the democrats should be inundating the media with "middle class tax cuts YES, millionaire tax cuts NO" over and over and over and making the republicans very publicly invest in defending their position
i think even a lot of the rank and file of tea party don't particularly want to see millionaires getting tax cuts
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But they're all going to be millionaires, too, just as soon as the socialists and the welfare mothers stop taxing them so much.
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God knows the only thing between a totally mediocre suburbanite and piles of riches is the never ending ocean of grasping welfare hands.
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And another 400 degrees of foreign aid and earmarks.
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"That means the next TSA official that gives you an enhanced pat-down could be a practicing homosexual secretly getting pleasure from your submission,"
That is the sexiest thing I've ever heard of. Go team!
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I'm sorry, is this wrong?
"That meanth the nexh TethA official that gives you an enhanthced pat-down could be a practicing homothsexual secretly getting pleasure from your thsubmission,"
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on so many levels
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I'm sorry it's just.. I've read this research about how being a homophobe corresponds really closely with getting a massive erection while watching gay porn. And you hear these guys get up and just say all the dumbest shit imaginable about how young people like they used to be should be locked up in cages like hot little animals.
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Those damned gays.
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LOL @ Jason and the goofy fake website.
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HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT
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mental illness is a bitch, I guess
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JESUS it just gets worse and worse and oh my fucking god so much worse as it goes on
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Top Comments
He's not a racist. He's a retard.
IDontHoldTheTruth 5 hours ago
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I couldn't make it past a minute. That dude is a serious piece of garbage.
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I was done as soon as he said "nigra".
Hooo boy.
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And neight beat me to it.
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"Some of my best friends are nigras".
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..All the nigra race pimps out there... we are sick and tired of being called racists...
WHAT
OH MY GOD
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A "tea-had"...?
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If this is a troll, it's amazing.
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It almost seems like it is, though, right?
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the comments are very interesting here...
http://southfloridadailyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/grady-warren-all-thats-missing-is-white.html
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<a href='http://southfloridadailyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/grady-warren-all-thats-missing-is-white.html">Link that scary shit, sir</a>
I'm going to watch the puppies again. People are fucked.
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neight
4/25/11 5:34 PM
"the tea party is tired of nigras calling us racists"
4:02 -
"Are we racist because we love Sarah Palin because she is a female version of Ronald Reagan, and to millions of men she is their fantasy wife."
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That was my favorite part too
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Oh my (one of the comments from the post above)
"Hispanics ruin neighborhoods. They leave taco wrappers on the lawn and they're very dirty people. We need them out of North Carolina and Oklahoma where us white folks take pride in America. We are the Real Americans, like Grady, and all we want is America to be like it was before non-Americans and blacks started making things bad here."
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That has to be fake, right? Taco wrappers?
Please?
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Real Americans dispose of their taco wrappers properly - I think its in the consitution
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"constitution"
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Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
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Does it have electrolytes?
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For self-respecting tacquerias the "wrapper" is a second tortilla, so I'm guessing anglo culprits.
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Yeah, all people from south of the border are staunch heritage preservationists.
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Nice!
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Howzabout this math:
NY-26 HOUSE
Corwin (R) 42%
38,908
Davis (Tea) 9%
7,827
Hochul (D) 48%
44,234
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I think I'm gonna go post that math on my rightwad cousin's facebook wall.
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The funny thing is Davis was the DEMOCRATIC candidate in 04 and 06, though I understand he's one of those "foreigners are taking your jobs away!" types so he could easily run on either party depending on if he's talking about outsourcing or immigrants.
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Your math is flawed. Davis was an Independent, not a Tea.
Teabaggers don't have the stones to form an official third party.
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Actually I think he officially ran on the "Tea" ticket, but that doesn't make it a real party anymore than the "Rent Is Too Damn High" party is a real party.
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And that just made me realize if I ever run for office I want to do so under the "Keg" ticket.
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Strange that proposing to gut medicare is not a political winner
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Bad economy + aging babyboomers + current old people = medicare a bad thing to consider cutting. I'm betting the AARP was all over the GOP. You could have talked about cutting education because in a well off district there are means to send people to private schools or even talk about cutting entitlement programs like welfare but there is an older generation who will do what they can to preserve social security and medicare because it directly affects them either now or soon. Given how much people have lost in the market too, savings for the older generation aren't going to cover their bills.
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The funny thing is, I bet a "We're going to radically change/cut medicare.... but we won't do so until 2050" would work just fine. Because i think a lot of people my age assume the safety net will be shredded anyway when it's time for us to be caught by it
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True but the AARP is a HUGE lobbying org that has to fight something like that to assure they will be able to get future generations to trust them as a voting resource and advocate for their welfare.
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Fuck that, if I can't collect my SS checks, I'm shootin the place up.
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Ugh, this morning's NYTimes had an article about how one of the effects of this movement is a political resurgence for Ralph motherfucking Reed.
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Fucking hell. I had forgotten about that slime.
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My Ron Paul-loving Facebook friend always makes for some entertaining reading.
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I don't think I understand; are you saying that Ron Paul and the Tea Party are claiming ideological difference from each other?
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I think they are different. Fiscally, they are after the same thing, but the racist, bomb-the-brownies, conservative Christian bullshit that comes with so many Tea Partiers isn't a big part of Paul's platform near as I can tell.
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Ron Paul didn't write those articles about blacks and gays.
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You're kidding, right?
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fuck ron paul i am so sick of hearing all the apologists for that fucking dickhead
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x 1000
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I liked this summation:
jawknee
8/11/11 11:41 PM
I didn't hear the debate tonight, but I can imagine.. Ron Paul seems to know a lot of nice little facts but then comes to the most idiotic conclusions, especially when he starts talking about the economy or the government's economic policy. I can picture him saying something like, "Well, everybody knows the sky and oceans are blue. So, if you want the ground to be blue as well, you just need to throw dirt into the air, or maybe into some water. There you go. It's pretty simple, really. You just a need a leader with the guts to do it."
Post was made at a date and time with 3 11s in a row, too.
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I get a kick out of his little talking points stirring to reaction those who're Turned Off By Politics™: "Oh, an anti-war Republican in favor of reforming our drugs laws? I, a Caucasian male between 18-40 who otherwise disavows politics, am suddenly all ears!"
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"I also work in the tech field!"
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Yeah, I wanted to like Ron Paul when he first appeared on my radar, but it soon became clear that for each good thought he had there were five more that were complete bullshit.
Still, I think the way the media basically ignores him is pretty wack, and speaks volumes about their role in the game.
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Rick Perry keeps them coming:
"How old do I think the earth is? You know what, I don't have any idea," said the Texas governor when asked about his position on the issue by a woman and her son. "I know it's pretty old so it goes back a long long way. I'm not sure anybody actually knows completely and absolutely how long, how old the earth is."
Perry regarded evolution as "a theory that's out there" and one that's "got some gas in it." He added that in the Lone Star State both creationism and evolution are taught to students in public schools. He explained, "I figure you're smart enough to figure out which one is right."
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fuck ron paul i am so sick of hearing all the apologists for that fucking dickhead
Magma 3:16
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Wow. Did anyone press him to answer whether he thought its age was counted in thousands of years or billions or billions of years?
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fuck paul.
magma for prez.
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damn, that's even better than my Moonbeam & Failure 2016 dream team
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Best Presidential Ticket: Soapy Kittens and Magma?
That's what I was thinking.
Although I think some of the comments SK made recently in the Steely Dan thread might forever derail his presidential ambitions.
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Yeah, cause only Republicans don't like Steely Dan :)
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steely dan is "big tent" smooth jams
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Fuck those dudes. I'm voting for the Classical/PoppaLarge co-headlining ticket.
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wait wait wait, an election with 2 good choices?! how the heck does that work?
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we gotta play this to our advantage, neight.
OUR VOTES CAN BE BOUGHT WITH BALES OF DEESH
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I'm voting for the Classical/PoppaLarge co-headlining ticket.
yes
the I Like Doing Bumps Off Titties party
HUZZAH
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Ganin / Eisakoff '04 Brutal Dictatorship Party
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The Bumps off Titties Party is in FULL EFFECT.
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Hahaha, boris. Straight to facebook.
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…and cholera.
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K, so I was just at a friend's wedding, and most of her extended family are Republicans. One of these people was a woman the bride hasn't spoken to in over a year. Why? Because this stupid, out-of-touch bitch actually remarked to our friend, during an argument about Walmart, that Walmart employees actually LIKE earning low wages because it saves patrons of Walmart money when they shop. Isn't that just gloriously selfless of them?
Understandably, our friend kinda lost her shit on this woman at that point.
People actually fucking think like this. Jesus.
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makeitgofaster
8/19/11 7:31 PM
Ganin / Eisakoff '04 Brutal Dictatorship Party
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Those selfless Walmart employees would probably work for free if the government didn't force an unconstitutional minimum wage on them.
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^^^^Seriously, read that. GOOGLE AGENDA 21 SHEEPLE.
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I'm going with dumber.
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I'm going with yes.
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"Are these morons getting dumber, or just louder?"
I will respond with my response to any question when an either/or type situation is presented?
y can't it b both?
This is getting to the point of hilarity. If it weren't so depressing. At least they are bringing the Republican party down with them.
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This article made me yell at the screen. We are all fucked.
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It's too bad that, though in the long run they may hopefully unconsciously inconvenience their lives to the point of ultimately shortening them, they have to continually ruin it for the rest of us along their way to that last shuffle step off the mortal coil.
Can Utah, barring SLC, be officially proposed as a separate landlocked "homeland"-enclave a la Lesotho for dumb middle-aged straight whites?
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Paraphrasing a point I saw someone make elsewhere, it's a shame nobody can get these folks to see that the 'conspiracy' is the corporate media getting people to do the bidding of corporations.
I understand that some people (read: aging boomers, though it isn't necessarily just that generation) are having a tough time coping with new realities; I just wish they didn't wield such a disproportionate level of power.
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If there is a bright side to any of this, it's that most of them will be dead soon and if they get their way with all these cuts, they will die even sooner. Hopefully.
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this town needs an enema!
- heath ledger
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"Could they BE any crazier?" - Chanandler Bong
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How has there not been a band called Chandler Bong yet?
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I assumed you had already started that band, pitpat.
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You won't return any of my requests for band practice via skype.
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First, they came for Beakman, and I did nothing...
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wp
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Dum dum dum dum dum!
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And so the longest-serving Republican in the Senate, Dick Lugar, gets ash-canned by the Tea Party. This is a guy that was so popular that in his 2006 re-election bid the Democrats didn't even bother to field a challenger.
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An awful lot of House freshmen are, shall we say, vulnerable.
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There was certainly a November guarantee had Lugar not lost today.
Now either way the GOP humiliates itself.
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