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Subtitle: Do we hope for a crazy zealot?
Starting a new thread because none of the others are about this specifically.
It's the night of the Iowa Caucuses, early in the returns process (we're not quite balls deep, more like "just the tip"). With 6% of precincts reporting, we're at:
Candidate Votes
Rick Santorum 1,229, or 24.2%
Ron Paul 1,204, or 23.7%
Mitt Romney 1,132, or 22.3%
Newt Gingrich 690, or 13.6%
Rick Perry 460, or 9.1%
Michele Bachmann 323, or 6.4%
Jon Huntsman 26, or 0.5%
Herman Cain 4, or 0.1%
Buddy Roemer 2, or 0%
Wowee!
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15.2 % of precincts reporting, and Paul, Romney, and Santorum are in a dead heat!
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There is no plausible scenario where Romney doesn't win the whole thing. As long as the people ahead of him are candidates like Paul and Santorum, it's just as good as a victory for him for now.
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Thread closed, people!
...but what does it mean?
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Romney is the only candidate who can afford to lose tonight.
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Also, "President Buddy Roemer" has a nice ring to it.
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stick with it buddy and you'll get .1% someday
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As I said before, the best part of this is all the people who will be Googling Santorum tomorrow
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my polls in
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u smkn the poll sumthin good
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Who teh hell is Buddy Roemer?
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Oh my. Is he the only one that hasn't been talked about as the front runner in Iowa so far?
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HuffPo shows him currently up to 9 votes. And counting.
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Damn. I spent 20 minutes looking for where I posted this..
I've been a little out of the loop the last 3 days, so I am not sure if Santorum is still surging, but I was thinking it would be either Santorum with another evangelical surprise (like with Huckabee) or the safety candidate, Romney. Ron Paul will end up in the 15 - 20% range, but not take it. Gingrich will be around 4 or 5% and Bachmann, Perry will be scraping the bottom.
.. only to remember I put that as a comment on someone else's status on facebook.
Well.. I'm dumb with where I put things, but good with ordering them.
This is a probably really good news for Obama. It seems like middle America Republicans don't really like any of their candidates in particular.
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Perry all but conceded.
Not that Bachmann has ever used reality-based information, but she has to know it's over.
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How bummed do you think the Obama team is that Santorum lost by 8 votes? I think they are probably filtering funds to that campaign if at all possible.
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God what a shitbag.
I watched part of his speech yesterday, not sure how I made it through.
Made all these promises about cutting taxes, and how any regulation over $100 million will be repealed, whatever "regulation over $100 million" means. What he was saying had no substance at all.
And then he went off on how Obama said these people were clutching their guns and bibles, and he gave some asshole-y hell yeah we are type response to that.
His daughter thinks it is mean what those internet meanies did to her dad.
I can't wait to find out that this dude is gay
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the look on big sis' face is amazing.
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Looks like Bachman canceled her S. Carolina trip.
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...and has scheduled a news conference for 10 am, in Iowa.
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Since God told her to run, if she quits, does that mean she is defying the word of God and will go to hell?
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Michelle Bachmann: "God said 'my bad.'"
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I listened to as much as I could stand of her speech last night. She doesn't want to be a politician, but the god-fearing American people are going to take back America from that Socialist Obama. And just maybe there will be a *different* Michelle in the White House.
Barff.
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"No no no!" said God. "I meant this Michele Bachmann. Ah, fuck it, too late now."
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That'd be great if she's calling the press conference to announce that she's an atheist now
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"Now I realize that God, in his infinite wisdom, wanted me to run and lose miserably, as I was guilty of the Deadly Sin of Pride and needed to be taught a lesson. This was all part of his plan."
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I saw this fake headline somewhere: Santorum Explodes From Bottom After Late Night Three-Way
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Lol someone edit in the matos face plz. (ref who got kicked in face in Olympics.)
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Excellent piece by Dana Milbank on why Newt Gingrich might single-handedly bring down the Citizens United ruling.
We can only hope.
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Perry press conference coming up.
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So Perry is going to throw his support to Gingrich while Huntsman endorsed Romney. I suspect when Santorum eventually drops, he'll support Gingrich as well? This might take longer than I thought...
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Santorum will be around for a while -- now that two out of the three people God told to run for President have dropped out, Santorum has all the scary Jesus folks to himself.
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Plus, he may actually have won the Iowa primary. Keep Hope Alive!
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Huh. Just realized, Ron Paul will be the only Protestant left.
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Santorum won Iowa
new poll has Gingrich tied with Romney in SC
this election might turn into a cakewalk for obama yet
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When was it ever not going to be a cake walk for Obama?
He can just run unedited clips from debates and public appearances for any of the remaining Republican candidates as his ads
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Word on the street is that one of the former Mrs Gingriches will have something interesting to say about ol' Newtie tonight.
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I don't know why, but J Low's pic made me LOL
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All part of the plan.
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Gingrich's ex wife claims that Newt asked her to let him date Calista when he was having an affair with her. Essentially, he asked his ex wife for an open marriage. Rick Santorum just crapped his pants.
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Have I smoked lots of drugs, or are the other Republican candidates bitching that Romney is too rich and doesn't pay enough taxes?
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Oh, the thick, thick irony of Newt freaking out about questions over his marriage.
The speaker once again pledged to say during every public appearance that Americans have the right to know the truth about the Lewinsky matter and that the president is not above the law.
-CNN, 1998
Also, Mitt just said something about how he lives on the "real streets" of America.
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All four of his houses are on real streets.
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i'm starting to think the strategy for the GOP is to have a seemingly endless amount of debates until every democrat in the country kills themselves rather than have to hear about these loons yelling at each other
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It's something like that. The idea seems to be to throw all the mud around now so that in October everyone's all "Bain Capital? That's so January..."
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All four of his houses are on real streets.
Eight different states, actually.
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seamonster
1/19/12 9:26 AM
Huh. Just realized, Ron Paul will be the only Protestant left.
Haha! Isn't that something.
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Ron Paul would probably hold his own in a debate with Obama to some extent. But, for better or worse, he will not be the Republican candidate. And then whoever is unfortunate enough to be the candidate will have to come up with something to say above the level of what would fly in an attack ad aimed at the very dumbest voters. Romney and Gingrich are obviously the only ones capable of this, to however limited a degree, and Gingrich appears to be about to go down in scandal.
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Predictions --
1.) Gingrich will not go down in scandal in the primaries because no one cares. (Case in point - Herman Cain)
2.) People here are vastly over-estimating the importance of the debates.
DID GEORGE BUSH EVER WIN A DEBATE IN YOUR MIND? EVER?
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^ yep
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Classic authoritarian behavior. Violent defense of traditional values until their leader fucks up, then back pedalling and excuses.
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Well to be fair, everyone already knew about Gingrich's scandals, has anything truly new come out, other than he asked his wife permission to date someone else (who we already knew he was boning) before they got divorced? I wonder what would have happened to his campaign if this was all new information?
Plus Cain straight up attacked his accusers, saying they were out to get his money or were hired by his opponents.
Plus Cain makes Gingrich look like a genius.
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I think Cain is a legitimate example. His poll numbers weren't affected initially. But I don't really need an example if you watched Gingrich last night, 'nuff said. He probably gained supporters.
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His poll numbers weren't affected initially.
Yeah but after the 4th or 5th claim people started wondering. Scandals most certainly put the brakes on the Cain Train™
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I'm loving this-- Romney will still win but this is dragging out longer and damaging him more than expected
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I find Gingrich to be one of the most fascinating American political figures in the last one hundred years. He's kind of like an incredibly smart Richard Nixon. At his heart, he is a consummate politician and I really think he loves the art of the deal. He often makes compromises, but he never, ever gives in on fighting his opponent for every inch. In other words, he will work with you, but he's going to make your life miserable by doing so.
It's kind of like Daniel Patrick Moynihan had a child with Ricahrd Nixon. Gingrich knows the divisive end game that Nixon played. He knows that politics merely getting enough support. So he plays to where he can get support. He's an intellectual. For a big part of his life, he has had to hide that from his electorate. He was defeated in first two runs for congress by an incumbent pro-segregationist Democrat in Georgia. Gingrich was painted as an intellectual carpet bagger from the East Coast in those campaigns because he was running to the left of this conservative Democrat.
Anyway, the guy is so vile in so many ways, but I am really fascinated by him.
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i'm so fascinated with newt gingrich i could just beat him to death with a tire iron in the parking lot of taco bell
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I figured some people wouldn't appreciate my fascination. I'll do better to only completely and totally rip apart people I disagree with in the future.
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Bush the W may not have won debates, but he often was able to make himself seem more likeable than the other guy(s). That's worth as much as a win to the part of the population that would probably vote for him anyway.
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2tru, Manny, especially against Kerry.
I remember one debate where Kerry was talking about this lumber company that Bush was an owner of and how they chopped down all these trees and were terrible for the environment.
His response: "Oh really? I own a lumber company? Want some wood? heh heh heh heh heh heh", and even I liked Bush at that point. He totally faced Kerry and made me want to talk about wood with him.
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Oh yeah, and also during the presidential debate Kerry made a joke about how his wife's family was wealthy; I forget the context but it made him seem so smug, especially with W's subtle facial reaction.
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I think if you are watching the primaries or even the early presidential debates, you are enough into politics to know who you are voting for in the general election REGARDLESS of who "wins".
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Politicians go to the trouble to get on ballots. Gingrich is a grifter selling books, has been since he disgraced himself from public office, and ever shall be.
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magma90210
1/20/12 2:34 PM
i'm so fascinated with newt gingrich i could just beat him to death with a tire iron in the parking lot of taco bell
oooooooooooooooo
Then I could eat a cruncy taco...
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Dear Mr. Gingrich: if you are elected President, can I have an open relationship? Can I see other Presidents?
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Your wife is a President? Coooooool.
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This is the most hilarious train wreck of allll tiiiiiiiiime.
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That's just what the elites want you to think.
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First time the GOP has split Iowa/New Hampshire/South Carolina three ways.
Three ways, Newt?
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SWINGRICH
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Good God Newt Gingrich is fucking gross.
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It's just marvelous to behold. The nomination can only be Romney's given dollars and organization and such but every primary result like today's and every article like mr. warsawpactarmor links to shows just how wafer thin the support is for Willard.
Never been a better time to be an ineffectual Democratic president.
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I am SO into this. It's still going to be Romney, but he's got a humiliating, hilarious path ahead of him. This is definitely chickens coming home to roost stuff for the GOP, but it's also totally incoherent (Newt Gingrich, Washington Outsider!). Awesome
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Washington outsider, family man, not an elitist intellectual.
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It's weird that Gingrich converted to Catholicism shortly before his second divorce. I call shenanigans.
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I told you guys this was gonna happen
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2012: Romney, Gingrich, Paul, Santorum
2016: Bayh, H. Clinton, Kucinich, Clooney
Should I hope I'm wrong about forecasting this sort of parallel?... I know I probably am.
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fuck yeah george clooney's got my vote
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I'm also loving how much the GOP are taking a dump on each other. The hope is that they degrade the party so much that not only do the stronghold feel uninspired to vote for their candidate but they sit it out and don't vote in general which will affect congress. Obama then needs to fucking ram a socialized health care bill through and not apologize. Sure, he'll lose the next mid-term swing but he won't even have to pander then since he'll not have to worry about being re-elected. This is my hope but I fear he'll try to play nice with the party clearly doesn't care about common sense.
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So are we gonna wait until they have a nominee before we start shaming him with dicks, or did we decide that that's only for lady candidates?
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So many people refer to Newt as being so "smart". He really is not smart at all, based on his ideas of how things should be. He is an idiot. A bigmouthed dunce.
Conniving maybe, but not very smart at all.
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Someone said that Newt is a dumb person's idea of what a smart person sounds like
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hahaha
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Sure, he may not be smart, but at least most everything he says is a lie.
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What a piece of shit.
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This is getting good.
<michaeljacksonpopcorngifbitches>
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Newsflash: General election voters will, if the Obama and the DNC play their cards right (yeah, like that'll happen).
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Newsflash, however: Republican voters don't actually care about the issues they purport to care about.
You are right, sort of. The Republican party is so divided right now, though, and I doubt either of these documents will get a supporter of one candidate to support another, but it might affect some who are still undecided. The combined craziness of the 4 remaining candidates that actually have a chance to win the nomination is uniting the left behind a candidate who we aren't too thrilled about at this point.
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Oh and Rick Santorum's latest fundraising campaign is called
Conservatives
United
Moneybomb
This is either a really funny coincidence or Rick Santorum is much smarter than I thought he was.
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Soapy Kittens
1/24/12 9:36 AM
Newsflash, however: Republican voters don't actually care about the issues they purport to care about.
I try really fucking hard to not swallow whole the analysis that comes from lefty blogs and publications but I'm beginning to buy the notion (that's been developing lately) that the Republican base only truly wants one thing - to fight mighty battles and destroy their enemies and lay waste to the countryside. That is, debt reduction or lower taxes or gay marriage bans or abortion-for-none would be nice for these people, but they are willing to compromise on all these as long as they can blow up some hippies or dark-skinned people or Muslims. Their greatest conviction is that if liberals or college professors or journalists or scientists like it - whatever it is - it must be destroyed.
It's true blue nihilism and I'm beginning to think this isn't just lefty propaganda. I almost can't wait for the general election so that I can stop considering this.
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That's why you need to be prepared.
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mumblecrust
1/23/12 12:16 PM
Someone said that Newt is a dumb person's idea of what a smart person sounds like
he's the Tool of politicians
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Rick Santorum on pregnancies caused by rape, what a colossal asshole. Just make the best of it, ladies!
SANTORUM: Well, you can make the argument that if she doesn’t have this baby, if she kills her child, that that, too, could ruin her life. And this is not an easy choice. I understand that. As horrible as the way that that son or daughter and son was created, it still is her child. And whether she has that child or doesn’t, it will always be her child. And she will always know that. And so to embrace her and to love her and to support her and get her through this very difficult time, I’ve always, you know, I believe and I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you. As you know, we have to, in lots of different aspects of our life. We have horrible things happen. I can’t think of anything more horrible. But, nevertheless, we have to make the best out of a bad situation.
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Rick Santorum: "That child could one day grow up to be the President of the United States! Just look at me, I could be the product of rape!"
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When life gives you rape, make rape-ade!
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NO RAPE JOKES
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"I believe and I think the right approach is..."
...and I'll fight to make sure that everyone else is forced to think exactly as I do.
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The "absolutely no exceptions" folks are at least being more honest about it.
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That is sadly true. Which is why I'm standing at the very edge of my comfort zone in believing that abortion should be legal and available until a living baby has left the womb. Before that it is a choice.
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I would instate a 30 day return policy on babies
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also known as rebortion
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The problem with any ethical line for abortion is that you can always think of an exception that makes that line seem morally reprehensible.
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Yup. Likewise with the criminal justice system, social welfare, and the freedom to raise your children as you see fit. Life is complicated and the easiest solution to most things is worse than the well thought-out but still sometimes messy solution.
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Which forces people to either be wrong a lot, or to only have opinions about things that directly affect them.
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bob dole goes ham on newt, amazing:
here
I have not been critical of Newt Gingrich but it is now time to take a stand before it is too late. If Gingrich is the nominee it will have an adverse impact on Republican candidates running for county, state, and federal offices. Hardly anyone who served with Newt in Congress has endorsed him and that fact speaks for itself. He was a one-man-band who rarely took advice. It was his way or the highway.
Gingrich served as Speaker from 1995 to 1999 and had trouble within his own party. Already in 1997 a number of House members wanted to throw him out as Speaker. But he hung on until after the 1998 elections when the writing was on the wall. His mounting ethics problems caused him to resign in early 1999. I know whereof I speak as I helped establish a line of credit of $150,000 to help Newt pay off the fine for his ethics violations. In the end, he paid the fine with money from other sources.
Gingrich had a new idea every minute and most of them were off the wall. He loved picking a fight with Bill Clinton because he knew this would get the attention of the press. This and a myriad of other specifics helped to topple Gingrich in 1998.
In my run for the presidency in 1996 the Democrats greeted me with a number of negative TV ads and in every one of them Newt was in the ad. He was very unpopular and I am not only certain that this did not help me, but that it also cost House seats that year. Newt would show up at the campaign headquarters with an empty ice-bucket in his hand — that was a symbol of some sort for him — and I never did know what he was doing or why he was doing it.
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Newt would show up at the campaign headquarters with an empty ice-bucket in his hand — that was a symbol of some sort for him — and I never did know what he was doing or why he was doing it.
^^this is amazing
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WHERE MY CRISTAL AT?
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Maybe its a threeway thing
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Man on the Moon, No Food in the Spoon all over again.
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god damn it gingrich you really gotta play the moon card? ughhhh
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He's also talking Mars.
Why stop there? Find Nibiru!
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get a bucket, white grinch.
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danjohnson
1/24/12 1:21 PM
The problem with any ethical line for abortion is that you can always think of an exception that makes that line seem morally reprehensible.
the ethical line for abortion is that no abortion is ever morally reprehensible
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except the one that your mom didn't have.
BURN
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i'm not sure it being morally reprehensible to kill me is a burn
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I can't understand it for you.
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Gingrich says that if he could make it to a 2nd term as president we'd have a permanent colony on the moon!
This man obviously understands the conservative values of small government, low taxes, and fiscal responsibility.
What a pile of shit. I hope he wins the nomination so bad.
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how about we just make him king of the moon now, and let him privately fund a way to go live there.
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Hell, send him there on the public dime and let him figure out how to pay his own way home.
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Space bootstraps.
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moonbootstraps more like it amirite?
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Good point - what without all the gravity and such, it should be easy for him to pull himself up.
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Plus Atlas wouldn't even need to shrug if there were no gravity.
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My father, who has been voting pretty strictly Republican since 1952, certainly in all presidential elections, is an Evangelical Christian, socially and fiscally conservative, and I expect believes Reagan to have been the greatest president of the 20th Century, told me the other night that if Gingrich gets the nomination, he was going to vote for Obama.
Also, who cares about a permanent moon colony? If we're going to spend money on space exploration, let's go for broke with a joint US-Russian expedition to Mars.
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I was so ready to jump in for Newt after the moon base promise – finally a candidate who remembers great things a country can do – I missed the obvious Florida/NASA pandering going on.
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Gotta get back to the moon and mine its sweet sweet helium. (Earth's nearly out of the stuff.)
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SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE BALLOONS!
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I wanna live on the moon, man.
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Yeah, I am with boris (I think). My first thought on hearing the moon base thing was like "YEAH, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT?" But then my second thought was "A rat done bit my sister Nell/But whitey's on the moon".
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<i>warsawpactarmor
1/26/12 5:13 PM
My father, who has been voting pretty strictly Republican since 1952, certainly in all presidential elections, is an Evangelical Christian, socially and fiscally conservative, and I expect believes Reagan to have been the greatest president of the 20th Century, told me the other night that if Gingrich gets the nomination, he was going to vote for Obama.
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THIS. My old man has voted for a Democrat once. And it was for Obama and only because the idea of Sarah Palin being a bullet or a plane crash or a heart attack away from the Oval Office was scarier to him than anything Obama could do. For the last year or two he claims he's regretted the vote (and this is a guy who has done Just Fine in this economy), but he's old enough and smart enough to remember what a joke Gingrich was as speaker. He'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat, and Gingrich never.
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Your lips to God's ears, lil' Shiner.
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hahahahahaha the onion is so great right now.
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Let him go the distance. It will only add to his laughability among people who recall who he was, as late as one second after Romney secures the nomination.
Also, if I ever met him, I'd ask him what were the specifics of his plan to locate and secure unaccounted-for tactical nukes in Eastern Europe and former Soviet republics in the wake of the collapse of the USSR and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact. And, when he stammered enough for it to be clear that it was the first time something that was actually dangerous and important had ever been presented to him, I'd ask him about the terrible peril to civilization that equal rights for LGBT citizens represents.
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If I had time, I would be out campaigning for Santorum today and tomorrow. The longer he is in the better!
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Good one, warsaw!
So who is gonna be Romney's running mate? T-Paw? Nikki Haley?
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Speculation is that Willard's sidekick will be T-wolves point guard Marco Rubio.
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It'll be a sop to the mouth breather base à la Palin. Rubio is as good as any.
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Was that the day he released his tax return?
Saw a poll today that Obama is leading Romney by 9 points, and that even though a majority of Americans don't think Obama is doing good enough for the economy, they think Romney would do worse.
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i'm always pleased when a majority of americans manage to dislodge their heads from their asses - so many bright, shiny new faces to smile and wink at!
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Santorum is speaking in Blaine at 3...
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Ooh heart of the beast!
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Im here right now. It's fucking scary. They got him good with some glitter though!
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Glitter? Sounds gay.
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There's also a guy in a pig costume. And a live pig. It's like a fucking circus here.
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Is Blaine the anal sex capital of MN?
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only on halloween
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Are you thinking of Anoka?
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DOCTOR Ron Paul will be in my little town this evening, just a mile or so from my house. And I'm all out of pigs and glitter.
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5% in and Santorum is WAY ahead in MN.
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Santorum might win all three states tonight. Meaningless, hilarious, and awesome all at the same time if so
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Romney is getting the kind of party hate reserved for someone who's already lost.
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Eye of Newt and wing of bat...
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At a ratio of 2 to 1, Americans like Mitt Romeny less the more they find out about him. Republicans might be smarter than I thought, except the whole not coming up with a plan B part.
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I recall reading on fivethirtyeight that a brokered convention might be remotely possible, as in, the party gets together over inconclusive primary results and nominates a compromise candidate that might not have even run during the actual primary season.
If that were to happen, who the hell would that be?
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Jeb Bush
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You read part of my mind. Another Bush, though? Too soon?
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Fred Thompson?
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Chris Christie.
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No, no, and no. Romney is going to be crammed. down the throats of the voters, voters they could give a crap about.
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Yeah, i was kidding. It'll be Romney; there will be no convention drama unless he dies of a heart attack right before it or whatever
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Which Bush are you talking about taco?
As much as I dislike Chris Christie, he is probably the best choice. Although to be honest it looks like the tea party is ready to bring the Republican party down with them, so it probably doesn't matter who they pick at this point.
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There are rumors that Christie has skeletons and doesn't want to run for fear of them coming out.
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?? I was responding to the Jeb Bush suggestion, and I was wondering if his sharing the last name "Bush" be considered baggage, given that George the Son (and the Brother) has made hardly a word nor appearance so far?
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- in this very hypothetical scenario, of course
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when you said that I read part of your mind, I thought you meant the part of your mind that was thinking a bush but not the part of your mind that was thinking of a Bush other than Jeb.
If Jeb were going to run, he already would have been in the race though, he was at one time the "golden boy" to succeed his brother, though.
I don't buy that for Christie jawknee, it's not like he was running for state senate over there. If he had them they already would have come out.
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So Santorum winning MN is great, right? The christian right are pushing for Santorum, Paul polling high and Romney finishing 3rd means that the GOP is fucked. Santorum has no shot in MN or in the national election. He got beat last time he ran and this is what the general public will think
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The Republicans do not shift gears like this. It will be Romney as it always was, and he will lose, and then 2016 is a free-for-all. My earlier observation in this or another thread about Rick Perry's 2016 viability was before he totally destroyed himself this season, but a "RYAN FOR PRESIDENT" campaign four years from now seems pretty viable.
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Uncle Jam
2/07/12 10:28 PM
Although to be honest it looks like the tea party is ready to bring the Republican party down with them
This is a good point. That is probably part of their aim, even if they have nothing credible to fill the vacuum, it's now dawning on their not-terribly-foresighted mainstream allies.
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So this is a non-binding caucus, what does that mean exactly? I know delegates are selected at the caucuses to go to the congressional district convention and then ultimately the state convention. But since Santorum is winning, does he get to send more supporters to the convention? I don't think that's the case. When I went to a caucus in 06, I think they just barely got enough delegates. You have to be willing to sit in a room and not really do anything for a long time. And then you have to be willing to do that again at the state convention. Ron Paul idiots are dumb enough to do that. But I think the state still goes for Romney when the votes are actually cast. At least if this whole thing works the way I think it does.
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Yeah I fear for the Democrat who has to runs against the name most directly associated with Medicare and Social Security destruction.
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But SO PRETTY.
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If Republicans haven't figured out by 2016 that extremism isn't right, then they deserve Ryan as a candidate.
How about this one: who will be the Democrat contender?
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Paul Thissen.
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Wouldn't it be funny if Democrats learned to "forgive" their party elders for criminal transgressions in the past if they served the purpose of the message, similar to Gingrich's redemption during this cycle? (Clinton notwithstanding).
What I am saying is: John Edwards '28.
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Ready for a real mind blinder?
John Edwards' illegitimate child '52
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"he's a tough bastard"
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My brother reminded m that before Pawlenty presided over Romney's humiliation last night, Governor Decoy was McCain's guy in 2008, who in that caucus lost by 18 points to...Mitt Romney.
Radio AC TIVE
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Huh!
Still, gotta wonder how he would be doing right now if he had stayed in the race. As much as I dislike the guy and everything he stands for, he seems like someone the different factions of the Republican party could get behind.
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I would say Romney's fatal flaw is that he has nothing in common with 99.9999% of Americans and is trying to convince people that he's a good leader because he was born to a super wealthy family.
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Except the one in office?
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Anyone else notice the fictional Obama, an alternate fantasy version, that Republicans have been creating in Republican talking points and campaign speeches?
Santorum on Obama in his stumbling and stuttering victory speech: "He thinks he knows better, he thinks he's smarter than you, he thinks he is someone who is a privileged person who should be able to rule over all of you."
Later on he said, "We have a President of the United States, as I mentioned, who is someone that believes he knows better. That we need to accumulate more power in Washington D.C. for the elite in our country to be able to govern you because you are incapable of liberty, that you are incapable of freedom. That's what this President believes."
This Obama personal/value rewrite shit happens most often, but there are also straight face lies and a rewritting of history coming from the right wing organization as well. They aren't just rewriting of things that people have long ago forgotten, but also things that only happened just weeks or months ago. For example, in an interview with CNN last month-ish, Eric Cantor (House Rep and Majority Whip from Virginia) blamed Obama for failing to raise the debt ceiling in time and said he was to blame for the credit downgrade.
As Cantor was a first-hand witness to the Tea Party wing's stonewall that blocked the passing of that, it absolutely blew my mind that he had the gall to tell such a bald-faced slanderous lie straight to the camera. As the Whip, it was his job to get his party members in line and pass the bill. He had totally failed. After the Senate version passed and then the House bill failed, Boehner and Cantor were stunned. They had no idea what was going on and had no explanation. He is just too much of a worm to admit to his own failure.
Here's a new one for me. As we know they like to demonize Obama through association (Bill Ayers). Well, I guess Glenn Beck and Newt have picked a new guy: Saul Alinsky. Who is Saul Alinsky? I'll have Bill Maher explain.. ‘Who The F@#k Is Saul Alinsky?’.
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"All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."
—Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X
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My fave Obama is the one who "promised unemployment would not go over 8%."
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My fave Obama is Michelle.
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My fave Obama is Sasha.
She wrote "Whip My Hair," right?
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"Mitt Romney keeps making it hard to kid myself about Mitt Romney!"
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This whole nomination process has been like watching a slow motion train wreck.
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I think early on Romney sealed the deal with his serious rivals, like the fix was in. And by serious, I mean candidates that are actually electable. We haven't seen too many sitting or recent governors enter the race (Pawlenty & Rick Perry was the exception, and Pawlenty dropped out very early to support Romney) and if you look at recent Presidents (Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter), this is mainly the pool from which they come.
So Romney's the front runner, and he isn't worried about these other guys. But rank and file Republicans are simply are refusing to back Romney for whatever reason. Now it's so late, that it would be impossible to get McDonnell of Virginia or Daniels of Indiana to get in. They're stuck with a candidate that appears to be so weak, that he can't even persuade voters to him over blatantly ridiculous candidates like Santorum, or Gingrich. Say nothing of pure fringe candidates such as Ron Paul.
The Republican party has completely fucked themselves and it is hilarious. Romney will still be the nominee, and I'm sure a lot of Republicans will vote for him, but the question is... will he be any better at getting independent voters than he has been getting Republican voters. The worst part of it all for Romney, is that it doesn't seem to be that he's simply too centrist or too anything... he just seems to have a myriad of "unlikable" attributes.
All of this is great news for Obama. The economy will still likely be the key variable in this election, but the Romney campaign, which still has an 'inevitable' feeling in terms of the Republican nomination, is nearing a stall.
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I am interested to see what effect an Obama/Romney race will have on the Congressional elections. While Obama has alienated some of the base, it does seem like Democrats will come out to support him in greater numbers than Republicans will for Romney, which probably means that the Democrats will cut into Republicans' majority in the house.
It's been a while since I looked at which senators are up for election. I can't recall what seats are considered up in the air and if either party is in a position to change the current situation in any major way.
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There definitely seems to be an "enthusiasm gap"
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Before Iowa, the conventional wisdom was that the Senate was surely going to flip to Republican and that the house was up for grabs. Now it seems the CW is that the House will probably go Democrat and the Senate is still a likely Republican win but things are much less certain. Romney is lining up to be the worst Presidential nominee since Dukakis and he ran against a Romney-type candidate.
Things change, of course, but right now I see a 1984-size victory for Obama and, at least, a Dem house with a shot at the Senate.
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Change "ran against" to "was crushed by."
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what are the states that are likely to flip the senate?
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Frothy said that the health care law passed under Romney in Massachusetts in 2006 was "the stepchild of ObamCare" and said that Romney "built the largest government run health care system in the United States."
ummmm how did obamacare have a child before it was born?
this guy doesn't know shit about families
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Little known fact: Democrats control the Senate.
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Senate races where Dems have problems...Montana, NoDak, Florida will be tough, Wisconsin has Tommy Thompson vs. Unkonwn Lesbian...Missouri,..there's more...I'll look
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Uh..yes. The Dems contro the Senate but the conventional wisdom has been that they have little chance to retain it. That's changing.
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There isn't a plausible scenario by which a Republican beats Obama, so it is seriously time to focus on Congress. That is where the vast Super PAC money of groups like Rove will be spent.
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Webb is retiring in Virginia so that's a tossup. That asshole Nelson is retiring in Nebraska so that's a Dem loss. The map tells us that all projected toss-ups are in seats currently held by Dems where the seats held by Repubs are by and large safe. It's a sucky terrain for Senate Dems this year.
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Having a majority in the Senate has sure helped the Democrats ram through their agenda so far...
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Ideally Elizabeth Warren's wiping the floor with Scott Brown shows candidates nationally how one can run as a Democrat while actually speaking as one.
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Warren vs. Brown will be interesting but Mass. is Mass. If Baldwin can take down Thompson, Democrats will have a template for progressive wins.
And, yeah, filibuster reform should be made an issue in all Senate races this year, including Klobuchar's.
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There definitely seems to be an "enthusiasm gap"
Fruitlessly search the web and twitter, but I saw a poll a day or two about the "enthusiasm gap" and Republicans are not very excited when it comes to the presidential election.
Not sure I buy into Killer's theory that Romney "sealed the deal" to get people to not run, I think it has more to do with the fact that a lot of them thought Obama would get re-elected back when they would have had to make the decision to run. That looked less likely for a while more recently, but now he's pretty much got the thing in the bag, due to none of his own actions, mind you.
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he's pretty much got the thing in the bag
Nope. Obama can lose.
People forget what a great job the right does with framing issues and people and distorting facts to aid their cause.
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I used to be pretty hopeful about Obama's re-election, but with the amount and ratio of SuperPAC money going to the opposition, I think we'll be pretty lucky if Obama pulls this out. Every airwave and cable channel is going to be an "Obama is the devil" channel during commercial breaks from mid September until the election.
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Unlike every second since he's been elected?
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You will see the change, it will get worse. I promise.
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Obama can EASILY lose this. I'd give him better than 50/50 odds but there's no way this is in the bag
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Nope. Obama can lose.
People forget what a great job the right does with framing issues and people and distorting facts to aid their cause.
This isn't about Obama, it's about his competition. Even Republicans don't like Mitt Romney.
People are sick of the bullshit and distortion, and it's been showing lately.
Obama raise more money from just "small" donors (not sure what the cut off is on that) last year than Romney raised in total. A ridiculous amount of money is going to be spent on this election, but the playing field isn't as un-level as, say, a state election.
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Nobody is sick of bullshit and distortion. Just look at this entire board.
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Point is, the money spent is diminishing returns on a guy already defined for 99 percent of the populace. Particularly against an opponent everyone's first reaction for is distaste, and degrades from there.
Which is why the meaningful and influential money is heading down ticket. Just like after McCain washed out after the 2008 convention.
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I am optimistic that Republicans seem to hate Romney so bad that they're moving from "do anything to piss off liberals, sense be damned" to "do anything to piss off mitt Romney, sense be damned."
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Which is why the meaningful and influential money is heading down ticket.
Exactly. You get a much better return on investment from buying state elections, or even Rep/Senate elections.
You are probably right Manny, and I am probably being a little too hopeful, but I will still say this:
Unless there is some new GOP candidate entering the picture, they are doomed to failure in this race. The parties have kind of flipped sides, it used to be that Republicans were all unified behind one person, even though he wasn't perfect to all of them. Now Democrats are doing that with Obama. He's far from perfect, but he's about as good as we are going to get from one of the two parties. The Republican party is so divided right now that I don't think it's too far out of the question that one of these four remaining candidates would run as an independent.
Can't remember if I said it in this thread or a different one, but the Tea Party appears to be hell bent on bringing the Republican party down with them, whether they understand that or not.
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Can we get another Dem to run against Amy Klobuchar?
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In her case just enjoy the slaughter.
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Justin Bieber has on radio called for Klobuchar to be "locked up" for supporting a bill that would make "unauthorized web streaming of copyrighted material a felony".[25]
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How about we lock up that piece of shit Canadian instead.
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That nonsense was debunked already.
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Bieber >>>>>>>>>> Klobuchar
of course i'm biased by my hair
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This is why we need runoff voting. So that I can vote:
Bieber>neight>klobuchar
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See?
Obama is a perfect moderate Republican candidate, and despite what we have seen on the news, there are still a lot of those people out there.
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As to the Republicans' knack for framing things, they seem to have a little wind in their sails - from the hot air blown by Big Catholicism? - with their supposed defense of religious tyranny, excuse me, "freedom of religion" in the face of sound preventative health in the form of employer-covered birth control, er, I meant "secular tyranny"
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that wind is a fart
most catholics both use and support the insurance coverage of contraceptives
oddly enough the only people who care about the catholic church's opinion are a bunch of evangelical loons who used to hate them, but now neither has any friends left
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yeah, it seems like it's mainly the high-tier funny-hat-wearing Catholic hierarchy that has the main beef with the bc 'mandate'.
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I agree and know of that statistic - something like 60% of Catholics surveyed - but all the same it's making the news cycle in a way that I wouldn't be surprised most people would eagerly opine against their own self-interest. I mean, this is the same idea-spin apparatus that replaced the word "inheritance tax" with "death tax".
That, or it sits in the news cycle long enough that the Obama admin steps away from that part of the mandate like they've probably already done by now...
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totes on all points.
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Actually it was an even less innocuous "estate tax" before.
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Every election cycle people pretend the Catholic vote is in play for the Republicans. Never is.
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boris in the moments of my darkest fears about elections i love your smug confidence about how stupid/poorly run the republicans are (and i don't mean smug badly at all in this case)
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Appreciate that, mags. I'm not saying there aren't things (the SuperPAC congressional battle, statewide referendums pre-fucking over the coming DFL majorities) to be afraid of but jeez.
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In 1960, people were worried that JFK would be controlled by the Pope.
In 2012, Santorum is up front about being controlled by the Pope.
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Again, it's in the bag. Barring a major scandal or something like that.
The Latino vote shifting from Republican to Democrat was a big reason Obama was elected by such a wide margin. Republicans have only further alienated them since then.
Plus they are all digging up so much dirt on each other that Obama won't even have to do that. He can basically just run Newt's anti-Romney ads, and there are so many terrible, terrible sound bites from all 3 of the serious contenders, that he really only needs to use their own words against them.
All I can say is it's a good thing Karl Rove is not with any of these candidates. He's focusing on fucking up the country in other ways this time, and I'm sure he'll do a good job of it. As much as I hate the guy more than life itself, but it's hard to not at least respect his abilities.
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No it's not
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you do have a point, I suppose. Either way, I'm glad he's not involved.
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This election will most likely still hinge on the economy, which at the moment is improving. That could all change depending on what happens in Europe. If Europe falls to shit, and there is still enough time for that to affect the US economy, Obama will be blamed because he is the incumbant and no other reason. Romney, as awkward as his nomination process has been... and as I wrote before it's been awkward, could still conceivably win this if the economy takes a dive.
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I nominate that use of "awkward" as euphemism of the decade.
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When was the Latino vote a Republican stronghold anywhere but Dade County, FL?
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Where was it ever more important?
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I think you guys are underestimating the power of the super PAC. Even before they existed, remember how T Boone Pickens secret money turned a decorated Viet Nam war hero (but, yes a piece of wood candidate) into the lying coward opportunist and the privileged AWOL cokehead into a hero. That plus the ignorance (and stupidity) of approximately 50% of the voting public equals another Republican President.
I really, really want Obama to win and every sane, rational and even slightly informed voter should vote for him, but I don't think that describes much more than half of the voters.
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Yes, we all agree anyone can conjure a scenario.
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There will be BILLIONS this time to stamp that (fictional) scenario on of a lot of brains.
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Since this is a whole new game because of Citizens United, I do not expect this to play out like any other Presidential election.
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Also, we may not see the effect of the super PACs as much here as elsewhere. I don't know where MN stands in the toss up state list, but the GOP is going to target a lion's share of all that super PAC loot on the toss ups. I am guessing that anywhere between 33 and 66% of all commercials will be super PAC commercials for the last half of September until the election. I bet Republican money will be at least 4 to 8 times more than Democratic money. That's enough to tilt any election (although not necessarily a guarantee).
My hope is counting on Romney's Mormonism and evangelicals prejudice to give Obama another term.
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(33% to 66% of all commercials in those targeted toss-up states)
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Even before they existed, remember how T Boone Pickens secret money turned a decorated Viet Nam war hero (but, yes a piece of wood candidate) into the lying coward opportunist and the privileged AWOL cokehead into a hero
True, but they didn't do a terribly effective job of slandering Obama as a Harvard-bred, elitist, arugula eating Black Nationalist, and he he was running against a genuine war hero (for what it's worth)
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I really don't think the Super Pacs will be that big of a deal. Some "swing" / "independent" / "low information" voter will be swung away from Obama not because of a scary ad but because the economy sucks shit
If things continue to slightly improve, he's fine. If the unemployment rate inches back up this fall, or some other economic issue flares up, he's in trouble for sure
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I think people are forgetting that we seem to be dealing with a GOP that is more stupid/plodding than evil/plotting these days
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It seems to me that what once seemed evil and plotting is being revealed to be actually stupid and plodding. If for no other reason than its repetitiveness and hysteria, which eventually fails to reach a substantial number of even the dumbest, most suggestible people.
I mean, half the clever plan was to tell tall ridiculous lies at maximum volume around the clock. The other half was to suck gullible ideologues into wedge issues that the party has no serious intentions of acting on in any major way. Which is really just another way of describing the first half. That is still the plan, except unlike 2008, they don't have a likable war hero with a reasonable amount of folksy gravitas as their candidate.
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I really hope my worries about the sway of the super PACs are as unfounded as you guys think. The counter argument is that a whole lot of people with a whole lot of money think otherwise.
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Don't forget, Obama and his allies will be doing the same shit
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Read the newspaper today. It told me that Santorum is favored by 2% more of all Republicans than Romney, yet when pitted against Obama, Obama is up 10% while he is up only 8% against Romney.
Hope the Santorum Surge continues!
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Polls show Santorum is on the tip of every republican's tongue.
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Haha! Also, "Santorum Surge".
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That is legitimately what it said in the Star and Sickle
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My favorite was the Iowa diner that sold a Santorum Salad
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New Yorker also used the term "Santorum Surge"
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Man Bruce Campbell is really scraping.
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SMH
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Dave Mustaine has endorsed Rick Santorum.
Dave Mustaine is a moron.
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I always took the lyrics of Symphony of Destruction as a cautionary tale, but maybe now they will be used as a rallying cry for a Santorum presidency
You take a mortal man
And put him in control
Watch him become a god
Watch peoples heads a 'roll
A 'roll, a 'roll
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I was surprised that even Dave Mustaine could do something so obnoxious and stupid. He's in that curious subset of Republicans attacking Romney for being too rich. Also, he's mystified where all of Romney's money came from. Here's a hint, Dave: He was born into a wealthy family, and was then very successful in business. Why, he was in charge of Bain Capital, owners of Guitar Center, from whence some of your income came, in the form of royalties on various Jackson and Dean Dave Mustaine signature models.
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Has anyone posted about the comment by Santorum's guy Foster Freiss? What a moron.
"This contraceptive thing, my gosh, it's so inexpensive. Back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn't that costly."
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Gals.
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Any mention of onions and their being attached to belts?
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so Friess was born in 1940. So, by "my days" did he mean the 60's?
Also, he's from Rice Lake...
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Lol @ taco
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Oh Santorum:
"I was talking about the radical environmentalists," Santorum said, suggesting that they believe man should protect the earth, rather than "steward its resources." "I think that is a phony ideal. I don't believe that's what we're here to do ... We're not here to serve the earth. That is not the objective, man is the objective."
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wow what an ignorant cocksucker
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He also suggested that liberals were anti-science, not conservatives, because they want to protect the Earth instead of take all of its resources as fast and efficiently as technology allows.
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considering he puts religion before women or gays that is not at all inconsistent
tho, i would say he fucked up by saying 'man is the objective' because man is just here to serve god
God > Man > Woman > Earth > Gays
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Credit where it's due, Man is the Objective is a great name for a hxe band
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Objective Man
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Anyone catch this slip up?
During an interview with MSNBC on Monday, Rick Santorum's aid, Alice Stewart, had "a slip of the tongue," while she was explaining controversial comments Santorum made over the weekend about President Obama's "phony theology." She was trying to clarify that the GOP candidate was referring to his "radical environmentalist policies," and slipped up and said "Islamic policies." Stewart called MSNBC minutes later to correct her statement for the record.
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radical environmentalists
Even better is when his spokesperson went on MSNBC and talked about Obama's 'radical Islamic policies', then walked it back by saying, "Oops, I meant environmental." Oops indeed.
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Er, sorry, adam beat me.
Anyway, she knew exactly what she was saying.
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Even if she didn't mean to say it, it is clear that she and the rest of Santorum's campaign is thinking it.
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There sure are a lot of cases of people having "misspoke" in the past few years.
Is that even a word, or a "thing"? What the fuck.. you said it.
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freudian slip style
they spend so much time thinking about his radical islamic policies that it just flies off the tongue whenever they're talking about any of his other radical policies
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Telling you, that was so obviously on purpose. What better place to send out a dog whistle remark like that than a den of liberal propaganda like MSNBC?
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Interesting (this is the dude who is the only reason Newt Gingrich is still in the race)
“I’m against very wealthy people attempting to or influencing elections,” casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who is funding a pro-Gingrich super PAC, said in an interview published this week in Forbes magazine. “But as long as it’s doable, I’m going to do it.”
Read an article on SuperPACs in NY Times that said some dumbass has contributed to the SuperPACs for both Newt and Romney (which are both called _______ our future) and is paying for each to run attack ads against each other. How did that guy get so rich if he's that dumb? Must be family money.
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Maybe he's trying to ensure both their demises!
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i LOVE how all those in the running for the nomination are in a race to the right. the back-peddling in the post-nomination phase, when a candidate actually has to appeal to the middle of the political spectrum, is going to be hilarious.
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tru dat
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truer words...
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The debates are for masochists of course but they do give the very funny and trenchant Charles Pierce (he's way better on the page than on "Wait! Wait!," trust me) rich fodder for his daily politics blog.
His review of last night's Arizona festivities played out before an audience of desert-cured slices of human jerky.
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i LOVE how all those in the running for the nomination are in a race to the right. the back-peddling in the post-nomination phase, when a candidate actually has to appeal to the middle of the political spectrum, is going to be hilarious.
Not only will it be hilarious, but it will also piss off the tea party and religious nuts enough to run their own candidate. Hopefully.
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The radio show seems to drag him down to Mo-Rocca Mo-ron levels but I love Pierce's writing. Great on sports, genius on politics.
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Hint: Sagal's not trying to be serious.
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Wait.. Wait.. not funny? When did you guys lose your funny bone?
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Death by sardony.
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Don't ruin it for me.
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america survived 20 republican debates, we can survive anything
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From Rick Santorum’s speech at the Detroit Economic Club:
“I’m not about equality of result when it comes to income inequality. There is income inequality in America. There always has been and, hopefully, and I do say that, there always will be.”
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At face value, I agree, actually. There should be SOME income disparity, or there'll be little incentive for most people to work. If it weren't for money, I sure as hell wouldn't work--or at least not in the field I currently work in. I'd sit at home and drink and make blast beats.
But, of course, given that this came from the mouth of Santorum, and given the current criminal aggregate income disparities in this country, this is just the millionth reason someone should gouge this douchebag's eyeballs out with a grapefruit spoon.
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Hahaha!
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That's cold, SK.
Rombot's weird attempt to blame Santorum for Obabacare vis-a-vis his support of Arlen Specter ended up being a perfect lob set up for Santorum to establish his true cred on the Abortion issue. He got to explain his calculated move based upon Specter's word that he would not approve any pro-abortion justices. If this is true, it also shows Santorum's understanding of where the true abortion battle will be decided and how to manipulate it. Freaky.
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yeah cuz it's just so wacky and unrealistic how shugE is an anti-capitalist. also abortion rules!
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Of course there should be income inequality! I don't want to find out what Santorum's vision of income inequality entails, though.
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Income inequality is a straw man. No serious politician disagrees with Santorum's statement. It is the inequlity of opportunity that is the issue. And like Slee ZZ said, the extent of the income disparity exacerbates the opportunity problem.
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income inequality is a primary pillar of capitalism
i'd topple that
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Karen Santorum was initially lukewarm to the idea of Frothy running for President because of the humiliating defeat he suffered in '06
"I did always feel in my heart that God had big plans for RIck," she said. "Eventually it was there, tugging at my heart. ... When _______________, that was it. That put the fire in my belly."
and what was That?
why Obamacare, silly
that's right, Karen believes her husband is sent by God to make sure poor people don't have health care and sick people lose their health care
Karen Santorum is a total fucking loon bitch
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Yeah, but is she hot?
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Not that I don't have enough logical reasons to despise the Republicans.
I'm glad to see/read that Detroiters, esp UAW, are protesting Romney's bullshit this morning outside Ford Field. I wish more Detroit leaders (political, business, social, whomever) would make a fucking statement about this constant dumping on Detroit by these GOP assholes.
Fire in MY belly.
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haha "great optics" my brother said.
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SNL would have to get Ana Gasteyer back if Karen Santorum wins the wife-presidency.
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Can we just put all of these fucking douchebags right into the corpse incinerator? That's seriously all they are good for.
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wow, that's tragic
glove it
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fuck me, is santorum actually going to WIN the nomination?????
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Somebody's got to.
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But no.
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As sad as the things that Rick Santorum say make me, it would be pretty hilarious.
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Was the Romney thing supposed to be open to all comers, or was it one of these $1,000 to be in the same room kind of deals? I assume the former or why have it in a giant place, but I dunno.
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Yeah, the $1,000 to be in the room things are usually at some rich person's house. Or a country club. That was definitely a free to get in event. Well not definitely, but why else hold it there?
It's like he's flaunting how rich he is. Hey look at me! I'm so rich that I rent a football stadium for 500 people!
If Santorum is the nominee, I wonder if they would just cancel the election.
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Also, is there anything as funny and sad at the same time as Santorum or Paul supporters trying to convince themselves that their candidate could win in a nationwide election?
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I bet if we booked a few local bands at the metrodome, we'd get a more impressive looking crowd than that.
I also love picturing a photographer racing up the aisles thinking, "This is going to be fucking awesome"
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I bet more people show up at the Metrodome for those "rollerblade around the dome events", if they even exist.
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they do exist
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The weird thing is the explanation I read was that they claim they had run over the small venue they had and the only other option was ford field, which seems bizarre
Never been to detroit but seems like industrialists loved to build theaters, would think detroit would have tons of state theater type places
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Not that the Romney campaign's word counts for shit but they're saying the event was to be held in the Ford Center "atrium" or something but that Secret Service insisted that it be moved into a larger space. I guess the next step up was the largest fucking room in the state.
I believe it because I couldn't stand to think that Romney's stagecraft folks are that dense. It would truly astonish...
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Magma beat me to it. I guess the lynchpin is that the event was to be at Ford Field and the next step up was where the Lions play...
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You know we should probably be open to the possibility that they are just that stupid
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I am appalled by the president of Macalester.
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mumblecrust
2/25/12 12:30 PM
I also love picturing a photographer racing up the aisles thinking, "This is going to be fucking awesome"
x1000
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Man, you think he would have more of a clue by now!
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Asked by the AP reporter if he follows NASCAR, Romney responded, “Not as closely as some of the most ardent fans. But I have some great friends who are NASCAR team owners.”
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He then pulled out a golden lighter, set fire to a rare $500 bill, and used the flaming currency to light a cigar whose band was stamped with the words "hand rolled by 13-year old albino Cuban girls," then blew the smoke from the first pull into this reporter's face and chuckled as his bared teeth clenched the end of the cigar.
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Romney has decided not to be bashful or apologetic about his money. "Vote for me. I'm rich, bitch!"
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I actually prefer that to the McCain/Palin policy of pretending they aren't rich and understand the plight of "main street", if I may be frank for a moment.
Remember when McCain didn't remember how many houses he owns? (It was 5) I'm guessing Romney not only knows exactly how many houses he owns, but he is happy about it.
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Romney has misunderstood the conservative mantra about money. He has been told, and believes, that his wealth is an asset, because conservatives believe that the pursuit of wealth is tantamount to the American promise of the pursuit of happiness. He has "proven" that the American dream is real.
What he misses is that achievement of wealth (it doesn't hurt that he inherited a ton of money) in conservative circles runs neck and neck with the trashy, NASCAR culture that loves money but also has a large dose of somewhat contrary red neck chic in it. He doesn't need to show he's rich, he just can't be embarrassed by it. More importantly, he need to show that he has retained common man values (which he never had given that he was born into wealth).
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Well to be fair Kerry married into money and didn't earn it himself and Romney.....
nevermind.
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But the crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. “I like those fancy raincoats you bought,” he said. “Really sprung for the big bucks.”
Yes Mitt, make fun of their cheap ponchos. That will certainly endear you to the rib-munching, Miller Lite swilling masses.
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I imagine that after being the presumptive nominee for months and being really disciplined, that Romney is possibly in danger of boiling over due to the fact that his inferiors are not smart enough to give him the nomination. He probably has a lot of contempt in him right now.
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I think stu is right, he had the thing wrapped up but the super rich are still backing Romney for the most part, it's the religious idiots and tea party idiots that are giving him problems.
I think Obama could bang TWO maids at the same time and still not lose to Santorum. Unless one of them was male.
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It seems for years now (since the first Reagan Presidential run, probably?) that conservative politics have been trending away from the wealthy moderate and toward the extremist wingnut who can dupe the poor folks lacking in the time/luxury/know-how to examine politics beyond "this is my guy because..."
a. not a Muslim
b. hates abortion
c. hates gays
d. shoots guns
e. will shoot missiles at those other guys, good and hard
f. prays in church, unlike that Muslim
g. good Christian values
h. "Main Street"
i. "Like me."
In other words, brace yourself for Fred Phelps or some shit in '16.
Or perhaps one of his lawyer sons, or even daughters!
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Just read that both Romeny and Santorum said on Sunday talk shows that it was a mistake for Obama to apologize for the accidental burning of Qurans in Afghanistan.
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I thought that the instant it hit the news. Probably for different reasons, though.
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Santorum is also anti-college. Cause, you know, why prepare Americans for the jobs of today and tomorrow?
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Because going to college would turn you into an indoctrinated snob like Obama.
Doesn't Santorum already know he has the non-college-educated crowd wrapped up?
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There was an article in the Detroit Free Press yesterday concerning his anti-college speech, and some of the quotes from his MI supporters were priceless. Mainly along the lines of "The world needs ditch-diggers too, Danny".
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A few choice quotes:
“I thought that was brilliant,” said Angie Clement of Commerce, Mich. “Not everybody has to go to college. We need garbagemen, we need welders, carpenters.”
“Everybody can’t be equal,” agreed Paul Murrow of Milford, MI seated nearby. “Somebody needs to do the manual labor.”
Clement’s husband, Stephen, said Santorum was right on the mark when he said that Obama wants to send kids to get college degrees so as to produce more liberals.
“It starts down at the elementary school level with all this bullshit about diversity, pardon my French,” he said. “Diversity and sensitivity and all that crap. That’s the stuff that needs to be taught at home not by my teachers. My teachers need to be academic: Math, science, history, social studies, that sort of thing and keep political opinions out of it, bottom line.”
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America needs dumb teachers, not these college eggheads.
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Today Obama calmly explained that "college" also includes "community college."
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AKA Ditch-Digging College
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The bookstore at MCTC is just stacks of shovels
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". . .My teachers need to be academic: Math, science, history, social studies, that sort of thing and keep political opinions out of it, bottom line.”
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Rick Santorum is almost totally defined by his homophobia, and then, distantly, by his staggering ignorance on nearly every subject and issue imaginable.
He also wears sweater vests, makes a deer in the headlights look like its in control of the situation, and trumpeted the routine and insignificant discovery of some forgotten Iraqi chemical weapons dump as a justification for the 2003 invasion.
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Sounds like Santorum miiiight pull off Michigan
I'm still of the mindset that it has to be Romney. But at a certain point.... who knows?
Rick Santorum! So absurd. I guess I'm rooting for him, despite the .01% chance he would win, which would be horrific.
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Michigan's primary is not winner take all. Their 30 delegates are split proportionately according to the vote, wouldn't be surprised to see it got 16/14 or 15/15.
Arizona IS winner take all, all 29 delegates go to the winner. I can understand why there has been a bigger focus on Michigan because it is a tighter race and Romney's home state, but Arizona has higher stakes and Romney has that one essentially wrapped up.
So Romney will likely get about 3 times as many delegates as Santorum tonight as long as he runs even with Santorum in Michigan.
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Yeah but if Romney loses Michigan, the focus isn't going to be, "Well, he still got a few more delegates overall". It's going to be, "Holy shit, he lost again". The more he gets beat up and looks weak, the worse he's going to look in the next states.
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True, AND more importantly Michigan is his home state, so if he can't win there he probably stands to lose a lot of swing states who are part of Super Tuesday. 400+ delegates up for grabs next Tuesday.
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I wouldn't be surprised if both these anti auto bailout, anti-union guys come in second to Lizard People in Michigan. They ought to.
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Ehhh whateva.
Regardless of what you or I believe, the media story line is that Romney's home state is Michigan, and if he loses the media will be sure to mention that he didn't carry his home state, which surely won't help his chances next week.
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Super Tuesday's results are already plain - Romney wins Virginia (where Santorum and Gingrich aren't on the ballot), Mass., and Vermont. He is polling behind in (and likely loses) Ohio, Tenn. and Oklahoma. Nothing that happens in Michigan (barring a blowout) will change this. If Romney can pull out a win in Ohio, he's a lot closer to the nomination. Winning Michigan by a couple points won't win him Ohio. Nor will a Santorum squeaker (you're welcome) flip Mass for Rick.
This race will be as confusing two weeks from now as it is today.
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Taco Tuesday?
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I'm interested in seeing the numbers of Republicans that participate in the upcoming primaries and how they compare to 2008. As these candidates run their own negatives up, that has to drive down participation. That may be a good indicator of how many Republicans will be sitting home on Nov 4th.
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Me: Go, Santorum!
Here's my take: I'm a money guy - doesn't matter what Santorum does now, the money is betting on Romney, so Romney will be the candidate. What will really do the trick is Santorum winning Michigan and a few more states, just enough to really galvanize his base. That way, when Romney ends up being the candidate after all, and losing to Obama, the lock step bottom-floor morons will become convinced, nay, TOLD BY THE LORD HIMSELF that it's because they didn't go with the absolute most frothing at the mouth diaper-wetting lunatic they could find. Voila - Joe the Plumber in 2016.
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pretty sure its been down everywhere, i know it was in mn, iowa, and fl
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^to jawknee
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I get the picture that most Democrats are much more interested and excited this primary season than most Republicans are.
What I mean to say is that these four campaigns are much more entertaining if you were rooting for a trainwreck from the start.
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Watching David Gregory hand Santorum his ass, and he thinks it's a napkin.
mouth=butthole?
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Grand Ayatollah or Grand Old Party?
One is a religious fanatic railing against secularism, the role of women in the workplace, and the evils of higher education, as he seeks to impose his draconian moral values upon the state. The other is the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran. ...
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The Nuge Has Spoken:
after a long heart&soul conversation with MittRomney today I concluded this goodman will properly represent we the people & I endorsed him"
goodman
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A daunting electoral bloc, the Wango Tango legion.
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For every I Have Cat Scratch Fever And I Vote bumper sticker you see there's another 99 you don't.
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Are you saying these Weekend Warriors have a Stranglehold on the body politic?
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No, their intensity is limited to ten cities.
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I'm sure they'll take Romney high enough.
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Well, if you can't lick 'em, lick 'em.
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you guys are doing the lord's work in this thread.
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“Republican want coattails, not concrete shoes. Rick Santorum is a concrete shoe for Republicans who are running for the Senate or for the House.”
- Eric Fehrnstrom, Romney Spokesperson
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<a href=:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7pv7sO5Gng&feature=player_embedded">Game On</a>
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Romney is up 230 delegates, but is still almost 800 away. If Santorum wants to keep his campaign going, it will probably be June 5 before Romeny sews this one up, 300 delegates up for grabs that night. Hilary Clinton conceded on June 7 in 2008.
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That Game on jam up there may just propel Ricky to victory!
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Meavy Hetal
3/04/12 4:14 PM
“Republican want coattails, not concrete shoes. Rick Santorum is a concrete shoe for Republicans who are running for the Senate or for the House.”
- Eric Fehrnstrom, Romney Spokesperson
lol yeah the groundswell of enthusiasm for romney is amazing, i'm sure candidates can't wait to ride his coattails
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frothy goes for the hispanic vote: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/14/rick-santorum-puerto-rico-english-statehood_n_1345464.html">"speak english and maybe we'll care"
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Santorum has some history with Puerto Rico at least, having been there (I believe) and worked on specific policies relating to the place. He went to church with the current governer!
This campaign is just going to keep getting weirder.
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I really want to fuck that guitarist girl in the ass...Game on!
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First you have to get married. Game on!
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I thought those catholic girls were having anal sex before marriage now?
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Frothy vs pink bowling balls
funny as it is watching this dude make assholes out of republicans and faithers
i am starting to worry his now re-inflated ego is going to make him into some talking head pundit type douche we have to listen to for years until he gives it one more try ala newt
ugh
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can't he just LOSE already
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When it comes to Santorums and Newts and Bachmanns on display as the faces of the Republican party, I can not get enough.
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He'll ink a megabuck deal with Faux News the day after Mitt's coronation.
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Maybe I'm naturally inclined to misread what Republicans say, but it seems like Obama's campaign could produce a half dozen political ads just agreeing with Chris Christie's keynote speech.
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Santorum really took creepiness to the next level. He kept saying hands, and then eventually talked about hands who have jobs.
And yeah, I don't get the Chris Christie speech. Is that the spot that's supposed to set up the next candidate? He looked so angry. What's the matter Chri Chri?
Really only Ann Romney talked about Mitt Romney much at all starting with Scott Walker. On MSNBC they said he's the least popular presidential candidate in the past 10 elections? Sheesh, I had no idea it was that bad.
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Seriously, even aside from Christie's whole "sharing sacrifice" thing, which is basically an Obama talking point, the general tone he set, making this election seem like a momentous turning point in American history that demands a hero from legend to lead us into a new century seemed almost designed to undermine a guy who's widely viewed even within his party as a "hold your nose and pull the lever" place holder of a candidate.
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My friends are over here from France and they said there is nearly zero coverage of this election in the European media so far.
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I expected more here, honestly. Weren't we completely inundated with campaign ads and election coverage by like June last election?
Is it just because there's an incumbent this time?
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Minnesota was considered a battleground state in 08, not so much in 2012. I'm sure they're assuming the two amendments will rally people to vote who don't normally vote, and that those people will not be voting for Romney.
The dude running the ad campaign for the marriage amendment always floods with TV ads in the last few weeks before the election, so we have that to look forward to at least.
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It's nice to live in a state where the year we're a battleground state, the Republican still loses by 10 points.
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I know. That Minnesota is ever a presidential toss-up is an absurd notion advanced by clowns but I'm at pains to point that out. We need the $$
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Yeah I mean I don't agree one bit, but that was their thinking in doing their convention here and running all those ads. No mo' Republican governor plus the Republican legislature is wildly unpopular this time around. Seems like they got the message.
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Yet we'll probably pass voter i.d. and the marriage amendment. And what's the handicapping on the legislature going back to the DFL?
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Voter ID will pass because it's misleading. People think they are just voting on a voter ID requirement and sadly a good majority of people want that.
I have serious doubts that the marriage amendment will pass. They vote yes crew is being out-fundraised by a 4 to 1 margin.
Legislature going back to DFL is pretty much certain. Unless a few more of them are caught getting blown by 17 year olds behind a rest stop in the next few months.
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Just 17-year-old dudes.
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so classy@
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Do you think they don't know Puerto Rico is part of the USA?
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i don't think geography is their strong point.
although, being in tampa, you'd like to think they'd know a little more...
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I know you meant due to proximity, but I'm gonna say that's the first time anyone has ever said, "being in tampa, you'd like to think they'd know a little more."
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Wait, so while she was up at the lectern, people were saying "Aye" and "Nay" to a different issue, and then a bunch of dopes on the floor mis-heard that and figured people had begun chanting "USA" in protest at the Puerto Rican, and figured "Yeah! Lets do this!" and started chanting "USA"???
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hahahahahahaha good point, danj.
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Okay, its seemed the confusion was over the chanting of "Point of Order" that lead to people screaming "USA" at the Peurto Rican Republican.
So dumb.
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I heard another clip of Christie's keynote that would make a great Democratic ad. The part where he says, "Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change the polls," just play that clip over a series of headlines about Republican leaders closing down polling places in Democratic districts.
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yeah actually it sounds like they were just doing it because RonPaulogists in the building were chanting "Point of Order" about being cheated out of delegates that they had obtained by exploiting state rules. Oh well Republicans are racists!!!!
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These are the worst people.
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Man, those Paulites must feel pretty bad after spending the whole summer boning up on Robert's Rules of Order.
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I'll let prince explain this to me, but the notion that there was somehow some legitimacy to RP having 33 of MN's 40 delegates in the first place seems ludicrous.
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Yeah it's funny business. They claim that they are being treated poorly, but they got where they are by exploiting loopholes. One friend who is a super brainwashed Ron Paul/Alex Jones guy and is down in Tampa right now was telling me how they were actually going to get more delegates because a good chunk of states' primaries and caucuses are non-binding.
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Governor Decoy's time to shine tonight!
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John McCain is calling for war with Iran and Syria right now.
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Really? Syria has a spot on that roster now?
Guess it's a rebuilding year for the Axis of Evil.
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Man just when I was getting smug about Governor Decoy finding purchase in the discourse:
@shaneshiner srsly @TimPawlenty is straight E.B. Farnum'ing this
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Pierce:
If TPaw had any real style, he'd leave a resume on the podium. #audition, #RNC2012.
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The NM Governor saying what kind of gun she carried got a bigger cheer than anything else she has said.
They really had those cameras locked in on the few black people in the crowd when Condi Rice was speaking.
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"We Can Change It" - who came up with this shit? Obama's got some good writers, gotta give him that.
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why the hell is the racist convention being broadcast on every channel? Shouldn't this crap be relegated to fox? oh wait they bought everyone.
Sorry!
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The first draft was "Mitt Romney: Another more different guy than the guy who is President now."
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Paul Ryan has a really annoying voice, especially when he's trying to make a point.
"this president doesn't remember that our rights come from nature and god, not the govern MENNNNNT"
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If hasn't been said already: Fuck these assholes.
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Forever been this way. Assholes attracting more assholes.
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That plant in Janesville he talked about closed in December 2008, a month before Obama was sworn in as president.
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where the hell is triumph the insult comic dog?
wasnt it at the last racist convention he accosted that vile pudding rove backstage while the foul flabpile was flapping his horrible jowls in glee at this nightmare he created
loathe
seethe
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He needs a few hours to edit in his perfectly timed rejoinders.
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thank you for giving me hope
i'm watching the block while i work overtime anyhow
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Daily Show had an amazing piece pointing out that Romney disagrees with the platform they just adopted and all these assholes saying he had a right to choose to do so.
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PRO-CHOICE
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Either Paul Ryan changes the info in itunes for Led Zeppelin to just say Zeppelin, or he doesn't have any songs in his play list from bands that start after the letter L.
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haha
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And yeah that Janesville plant lie is all the more odious because he obviously KNOWS that it closed under Bush.
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Daily Show piece also had a woman parroting the "almost impossible for rape to result in pregnancy" bullshit.
I'm sure this is as much a reflection on me as it is on them, but I can barely see a Republican on TV or in the newspaper now without feeling the onset of apoplexy.
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paul ryan sounds fucking exactly like kermit the frog.
like, JIM HENSON kermit the frog.
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I wonder if the debate format will allow the candidates to ask each other questions this year.
"How much does a gallon of milk cost?" seems like a good barometer of relateability.
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A gallon of soymilk, of course.
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"Thats a trick question Barack, nice try. We all know that Milk just appears the refridgerator."
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in the*
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I'm not very sure how much a gallon of milk costs.
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According to Paul Ryan, everything is free except American people.
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seems like it might be about $4.50, right?
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Of course my dad had no idea what milk cost, and he's like a caricature of working class self-reliance.
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What kind of milk?
Where are you buying it?
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$4.50 is in the ballpark, depending where you shop.
My dad guessed $8.
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Costco 2% is $1.99, I'm sure the same stuff at Whole Foods is 7.50. Great question.
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As a man I have no clue what anything costs except gas, certain kinds of red meat, and booze.
And skin mags.
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I buy organic whole milk at Mississippi Market. Does that may me more or less electable?
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Dean & Deluca
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Is it that ultra-homogenized crap.
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er,ultra-pasteurized.
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Who drinks milk? Fucking gross.
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Turlough's got the right idea, and thats what I want MY president to answer.
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The answer is children. Children drink milk.
I should clarify that I don't think the answer is actually a valuable piece of information about a candidate, just that the question is a rhetorical win and a popular soundbyte for the guy asking it.
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Elect me your president and I will always give 2%.
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It turns out I'm cynical about the political process.
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I think I'm watching the most pathetic part of the convention yet: Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair pretending it's Obama and having a fake conversation with him. Such a class A piece of shit.
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i hear neil hamburger is speaking after rubio
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i just heard Romney's lieutenant gov. in Mass. basically imply it was Obama's fault our credit rating was downgraded. Ugh, their plan is working perfectly.
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Ryan said the same thing last night.
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@invisible obama is killing it on twitter
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Ah yes, Mr. Clint "Tax Credits for Making My Films" Eastwood.
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Mitt talking about fostering bipartisanship. Bitch, get that word out'cha damn mouth.
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How the hell did anyone agree to let an 82 year old improv a poltical speech for national TV??? Amazing. Did they think he improvised those Chrysler commercials or something?
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Did he freeze and then remember that he had to think in Russian?
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I mean theres no way that Clint isn't the story of the next 24 hour cycle is there?
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Sounds like I missed a good night huh? Weren't all the conservatives pissed at Clint Eastwood for that commie-centric super bowl ad he was in?
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Wait, I think I'm getting my memes confused
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that video is pretty astounding. Unsurprising, but astounding.
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Hey, save a little for Mitt!
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hahaha the "You guys looked like you were really having fun up there" of politics
[i]Convention on CBS This Morning, Ann Romney first expressed gratitude: “We appreciated Clint’s support … I didn’t know it was coming.” But later, responding to the question of whether or not Eastwood’s performance was a “distraction,” she appeared visibly uncomfortable, “He’s a unique guy and he did a unique thing last night.”[/i]
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"I really liked what Clint was trying to do."
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(Boehner's teleprompter teleprompting his ears on the floor vote enacting the Ron Paul delegate-ejecting rule.)
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haha whoa, Clint was supposed to be out there for 3 minutes, and they already knew it would be unsrcripted. who thought that would be a good idea??
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woah they ok'd an unscripted thing?? damn
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did this broadcast on NPR, etc? wish I'd seen / heard it live... totally nuts.
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The best was when the chair told Clint to tell Mitt to fuck himself.
Wut?
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Are you claiming that guy isn't Hispanic? Because I cannot tell for certain.
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That's my broker. Shea Wiggington Hispanics Esq.
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pretty sure that's david brooks
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Heh
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That guy is whiter than my dentist
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Also well played boris!
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ian stuart, dds
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Dr. Lionel Jones, D.D.S., D.D.
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Can't be that hard to figure out... He's a delegate, rite?
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